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Fredbob
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes
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Having a bad day so here's my favorite bumper sticker from home.
JESUS LOVES YOU,
EVERYONE ELSE THINKS YOU'RE AN AxxHOLE! 
Any religion that can't laugh at itself is too proud, as you will see when the response comes back. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| You can keep your Meekness though. |
What's wrong with meekness? Git some. |
I prefer the term "humility", which I value. "Meekness" implies weakness, powerlessness, and victimhood to me. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Your girlfriend that dumped you to go gay in university affects you more than you realize. It's one of the reasons why you are so harsh. I think you really loved this girl and now you are really bitter over it without even probably knowing it. You are masking it by the humping blues. It's called FALSE INTIMACY. I had buddies who fell in love with some girl and then they were dumped and then because they didn't want to deal with the pain of their brokeness they became serious playas/assholes.
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Nice try at some psycho analysis, but no. I have no regrets or anger towards that girl. We were young, it wouldn't have worked out in the long riun, it was the best thing. And what makes you think I'm a playa? Nothing I've said on here supports that. I have a steady gf. Quite happy, thanks for asking. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Satori,
Maybe now, while you are still in the midst of youth, it easy to ignore the pain of your heart for other distractions. However, it's going to catch up with you in the future. There's a real brokeness in your life that causes you to say the horrible things that you do. You are better than that. You are a better person than what you have flung at me.
Also, lets see if your steady gf will be permanent or another step towards many more relationships. I predict you won't be able to settle down. This relationship will not be "meek" enough to cover your pain.
Meekness is not about your own strength, but trusting in God's to overcome your own inability.
Humility is about admiting you have a source of inability and allowing God to be the strength that flows through it. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| My youth? I wish homeboy! Me and my gf are engaged to be married end of year... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Satori,
Maybe now, while you are still in the midst of youth, it easy to ignore the pain of your heart for other distractions. However, it's going to catch up with you in the future. There's a real brokeness in your life that causes you to say the horrible things that you do. You are better than that. You are a better person than what you have flung at me.
Also, lets see if your steady gf will be permanent or another step towards many more relationships. I predict you won't be able to settle down. This relationship will not be "meek" enough to cover your pain.
Meekness is not about your own strength, but trusting in God's to overcome your own inability.
Humility is about admiting you have a source of inability and allowing God to be the strength that flows through it. |
God hates people who make believing in God look like something only freaks do. Shut up, you are only hurting God's image. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| My youth? I wish homeboy! Me and my gf are engaged to be married end of year... |
Well congrats...I'm surprised. I hope it works out for you. |
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stat
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Sagittarius:
Maybe now, while you are still in the midst of youth, it easy to ignore the pain of your heart for other distractions. However, it's going to catch up with you in the future. There's a real brokeness in your life that causes you to say the horrible things that you do. You are better than that. |
with horoscopes like that, you could get a job working for - oh, I don't know - The Korean Times? Actually, maybe just a regional rag. |
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Destroyer
Joined: 11 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Allright,
I read through this entire post trying to figure out how those gold fillings were a miracle and I still don't know why... Was it just a miracle that gold fillings are much cheaper here than they are back in yr. homeland? Or maybe that the fillings went in correctly and the crummy dentist didn't give you any more mouth problems? Or did that pastor guy pay for the job? No F-ing way are you actually saying that a prayer meeting physically put gold fillings in yr. mouth... or did the lords might change those humble amalgam fillings that were in there before.
WTF would you start this thread with a big ugly picture of yr. maw and a line of Christian Incoherant Drivel? Did you just want to get bad reactions from other posters so you could defend yr. feverent love of god and crap? It seems like all you get is flames when you post, so why do you persist? Moron.
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kidcharlemagne
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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i'm a bit confused too. so what's up with the fillings?
my wife just got some gold fillings and they certainly filled in the cavity but i wouldn't call that a miracle. the real miracle would have been for god to just fix the cavities himself so that we could have saved some money. hell, i would even settle for a miracle of getting her to floss regularly. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Here's a weird story regarding gold fillings.
My best friend for the past 16 years is a girl who comes from a Christian family. We met at a fairly conservative Protestant church, but her family got interested in the "charismatic" side of things when the "Toronto Blessing" was going on (a still-disputed phenomenon where things got pretty crazy-- here's a link if you're interested: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/tbless.html )
She started going to a church that featured some unusual responses to God. Instead of just "stand-up-sing-song-sit-down-amen" there was prophesy, healing, tongues, and "holy laughter." When people get excited about meeting God, and the Holy Spirit picks his moment to start working, some rather dramatic and sometimes alarming things can happen. They always kept a sense of humour about it, and one night as they were saying grace before dinner, my friend jokingly said "...and God, please give my mother gold fillings."
Well, what do you know... He did! Yes, it's peculiar, and I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't know this family so well, but all of them saw it, and they all believe. I'm sure that God has a sense of humour. The woman who got the fillings should probably be nominated for sainthood (if we had that stuff in the Protestant church) for being one of the sweetest, most generous people I know. Maybe it was a divine pat on the back? Pat on the molars? |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Here's a weird story regarding gold fillings.
My best friend for the past 16 years is a girl who comes from a Christian family. We met at a fairly conservative Protestant church, but her family got interested in the "charismatic" side of things when the "Toronto Blessing" was going on (a still-disputed phenomenon where things got pretty crazy-- here's a link if you're interested: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/tbless.html )
She started going to a church that featured some unusual responses to God. Instead of just "stand-up-sing-song-sit-down-amen" there was prophesy, healing, tongues, and "holy laughter." When people get excited about meeting God, and the Holy Spirit picks his moment to start working, some rather dramatic and sometimes alarming things can happen. They always kept a sense of humour about it, and one night as they were saying grace before dinner, my friend jokingly said "...and God, please give my mother gold fillings."
Well, what do you know... He did! Yes, it's peculiar, and I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't know this family so well, but all of them saw it, and they all believe. I'm sure that God has a sense of humour. The woman who got the fillings should probably be nominated for sainthood (if we had that stuff in the Protestant church) for being one of the sweetest, most generous people I know. Maybe it was a divine pat on the back? Pat on the molars? |
I could believe that story if I was there at the table, was able to look into her mouth and see normal filings before the request, and then look into her mouth after the request and see gold filings. Otherwise, no dice. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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I could believe that story if I was there at the table, was able to look into her mouth and see normal filings before the request, and then look into her mouth after the request and see gold filings. Otherwise, no dice. |
So, it's your conclusion that my friend, her mother, and the rest of her family are conspiring in a ridiculous lie? I'm not offended, just curious. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
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I could believe that story if I was there at the table, was able to look into her mouth and see normal filings before the request, and then look into her mouth after the request and see gold filings. Otherwise, no dice. |
So, it's your conclusion that my friend, her mother, and the rest of her family are conspiring in a ridiculous lie? I'm not offended, just curious. |
Well "lying" is a bit of a harsh term. I'd go with severly deluded. But then I'd say that about anyone who believes in these so called "miracles". People obviously feel a desperate need to believe in and experience miracles, which is odd. If your god was the supreme being of the universe, would that not be enough for you to know you were on the right team? Why make him do party tricks? |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I could believe that story if I was there at the table, was able to look into her mouth and see normal filings before the request, and then look into her mouth after the request and see gold filings. Otherwise, no dice. |
So, it's your conclusion that my friend, her mother, and the rest of her family are conspiring in a ridiculous lie? I'm not offended, just curious. |
Well "lying" is a bit of a harsh term. I'd go with severly deluded. But then I'd say that about anyone who believes in these so called "miracles". People obviously feel a desperate need to believe in and experience miracles, which is odd. If your god was the supreme being of the universe, would that not be enough for you to know you were on the right team? Why make him do party tricks? |
It's hard for me to believe that these five well-educated perfectly lovely human beings would all suffer the same delusion at the same time, but you can believe whatever you like.
As for miracles, I think that they accomplish a few different things:
-answers to prayer, to confirm that He's listening
-rescue people from affliction/disease/disaster
-evidence to impress non-believers
-renew and revive the church in general
I don't think I could "make" God do party tricks even if I wanted to. However, given that He's the "supreme being of the universe" I think He's entitled to use His power in whatever way He wishes, no matter how trivial. If you had such an endowment, a la Bruce Almighty, wouldn't you exercise your power in a few unusual ways?
With respect to answers to prayer in general, I think Renee Decartes said it very well when he said that God "gives us the dignity of causality." |
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