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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school gave me the 7 days off and that was it. Every other day, I have had to sit at school from 8:50AM to 4:50PM. At one point, I was only teaching one class in the afternoons for one hour, but I still had to be here from 8:50AM.

During spring break, I have to sit here from 8:50AM to 4:50PM all week.

So, what's the moral of my story?
Stop complaining about the 3 weeks vacation you got. I would have done anything for 3 weeks. I would have done anything in fact just to be able to go home after my afternoon classes, or maybe not have to come in until 10AM. Instead, I had to be here all day long, EVERY DAY. Whenever I asked about it to see if things could change, the VP would make such lame excuses.

Example: "If we let him go early, he could be hit by a car and because it is during work hours, we would be responsible."

The school just down the street from mine, let their teacher take just short of 2 months vacation. They let him go home for Christmas even and not even finish the term. My P and VP know about it, but would not even budge on my vacation.
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Francis-Pax



Joined: 20 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the record:

I technically only got 7 days paid vacation; however, I worked a lot of overtime during my winter camp and I decided to be compensated with paid leave versus cash (as allowed by the GPIK contract). So I worked for those extra days.

What is wrong with expressing the desire to use my time in a more enjoyable and productive manner?
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are working at the wrong schools. I got about 10 weeks of vacation this year at my public school.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:49 am    Post subject: Bitter too Reply with quote

I'm bitter as well. Last winter I had to teach every Tuesday from 2-4 and that was it, the rest of the days I could quietly stay home. Still sucked as I couldn't really GO anywhere like back home all because of 2 classes that were nothing more than time-fillers for the students.
THIS year I could have done a 4 week winter camp for a cool 4 million won. I pleaded my case that I would gladly make up the "time-filler" classes by doing five days straight if necessary in February. The principal initially said yes but the facking accountant at the high school was dead-set against it and ultimately I couldn't do it. Instead I did one class 3 times a week. Again just a time-filler class, not TOEIC or anything (that I WOULD have got paid for had it been).
So basically I am bitter and pissed that the school basically stopped me from making money for my family that would have helped out a lot. On top of that I got them a teacher to replace me and they saved on the 1.5 million recruiting fee that they were prepared to pay. Did I see any kind of bonus or even a thank you? NO not at all.
I've been in Korea since 1997 and I've virtually taught all levels, no joke. Three years at an institute (taught pre-school all the way up to Adults) three years at a university and finally 2 years at this high-school. I now look forward to something totally different as I'll be teaching at a company. Sure it will probably be difficult but I think it will be a good challenge. Also a cool 6 weeks vacation plus all holidays. The public school was a good experience despite the bitterness I have in my mouth at the end of it. I wish all other people at a public school the best, it can be enjoyable, you just have to be flexible.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Bitter too Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:

THIS year I could have done a 4 week winter camp for a cool 4 million won. I pleaded my case that I would gladly make up the "time-filler" classes by doing five days straight if necessary in February. The principal initially said yes but the facking accountant at the high school was dead-set against it and ultimately I couldn't do it.
So basically I am bitter and pissed that the school basically stopped me from making money for my family that would have helped out a lot.



Sounds like it was correct for them to deny you doing it, unless you got permission from immigration to do the camp job. Correct from a school point of view, that is. The principal is probably totally in the dark about immigration matters, so he said it would be fine, but the school accountant may have realised that allowing you to do a summer camp elsewhere isn't really fine unless you go through the immigration hoops.

Too bad you signed a contract...seems that's what stopped you, not really the school.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Bitter too Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:
I'm bitter as well. Last winter I had to teach every Tuesday from 2-4 and that was it, the rest of the days I could quietly stay home. Still sucked as I couldn't really GO anywhere like back home all because of 2 classes that were nothing more than time-fillers for the students.
THIS year I could have done a 4 week winter camp for a cool 4 million won. I pleaded my case that I would gladly make up the "time-filler" classes by doing five days straight if necessary in February. The principal initially said yes but the facking accountant at the high school was dead-set against it and ultimately I couldn't do it. Instead I did one class 3 times a week. Again just a time-filler class, not TOEIC or anything (that I WOULD have got paid for had it been).
So basically I am bitter and pissed that the school basically stopped me from making money for my family that would have helped out a lot. On top of that I got them a teacher to replace me and they saved on the 1.5 million recruiting fee that they were prepared to pay. Did I see any kind of bonus or even a thank you? NO not at all.
I've been in Korea since 1997 and I've virtually taught all levels, no joke. Three years at an institute (taught pre-school all the way up to Adults) three years at a university and finally 2 years at this high-school. I now look forward to something totally different as I'll be teaching at a company. Sure it will probably be difficult but I think it will be a good challenge. Also a cool 6 weeks vacation plus all holidays. The public school was a good experience despite the bitterness I have in my mouth at the end of it. I wish all other people at a public school the best, it can be enjoyable, you just have to be flexible.


Give the accountant a big, fat *beep* YOU on your way out.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Bitter too Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
bourquetheman wrote:

THIS year I could have done a 4 week winter camp for a cool 4 million won. I pleaded my case that I would gladly make up the "time-filler" classes by doing five days straight if necessary in February. The principal initially said yes but the facking accountant at the high school was dead-set against it and ultimately I couldn't do it.
So basically I am bitter and pissed that the school basically stopped me from making money for my family that would have helped out a lot.



Sounds like it was correct for them to deny you doing it, unless you got permission from immigration to do the camp job. Correct from a school point of view, that is. The principal is probably totally in the dark about immigration matters, so he said it would be fine, but the school accountant may have realised that allowing you to do a summer camp elsewhere isn't really fine unless you go through the immigration hoops.

Too bad you signed a contract...seems that's what stopped you, not really the school.


He says he is married so he probably has an F2-1 or an F5 and so there are NO issues with immigration.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, having an F2-1 made the immigration issue moot. The worst part about it? At first they said yes and I was ecstatic and went down to phone the camp to let them know. 5 minutes later however my head supervisor comes in and gives a song and dance about how it's not possible. That really sucked.....
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually don't find out what I'm doing until I arrive at school. Soliciting information from my students has drawn more success. I don't know if I'm teaching anything next week or not, or if I have to come to school if I'm not teaching. Yesterday I arrived at the vocational high school staff room to find that what had been a fully functioning staff room the day before was now as empty as if Iraqis had looted it. I managed to relocate my desk in what's apparently our new staff room sometime later. Yesterday I ended up covering for a KT who was too busy to 'teach' his February lessons.

But I still love working here.
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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrrgghhh. Was told I had Spring Vacation off..... today the Principal has decided ALL teachers can stay at home but i have to be here 9-5 and not just 'here' but in his office???? In the principals office???? A really strange old man that calls me the name of the foreign teacher from 2 years back Evil or Very Mad

Is he intentionally punishing me or does he think something else????

Note: he decides this, an hour after I sign the contract for another year.


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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thursdays child wrote:
Arrrgghhh. Was told I had Spring Vacation off..... today the Principal has decided ALL teachers can stay at home but i have to be here 9-5 and not just 'here' but in his office???? In the principals office???? A really strange old man that calls me the name of the foreign teacher from 2 years back Evil or Very Mad

Is he intentionally punishing me or does he think soemthing else????

Note he decides this, an hour after I sign the contract for anther year.


That's actually a little freaky... And even if not freaky, crappy.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thursdays child wrote:
Arrrgghhh. Was told I had Spring Vacation off..... today the Principal has decided ALL teachers can stay at home but i have to be here 9-5 and not just 'here' but in his office???? In the principals office???? A really strange old man that calls me the name of the foreign teacher from 2 years back Evil or Very Mad

Is he intentionally punishing me or does he think something else????

Note: he decides this, an hour after I sign the contract for another year.


That is mad shit. I would check with immigration. There is absolutely no point in you sitting in his office from 9-5. Is he going to be there too?
You can always change your mind about the contact and leave. Don't do him any favours.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovebdt wrote:
thursdays child wrote:
Arrrgghhh. Was told I had Spring Vacation off..... today the Principal has decided ALL teachers can stay at home but i have to be here 9-5 and not just 'here' but in his office???? In the principals office???? A really strange old man that calls me the name of the foreign teacher from 2 years back Evil or Very Mad

Is he intentionally punishing me or does he think something else????

Note: he decides this, an hour after I sign the contract for another year.


That is mad *beep*. I would check with immigration. There is absolutely no point in you sitting in his office from 9-5. Is he going to be there too?


Yes its fucked but what could immigration do?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Francis-Pax wrote:
I work for a public school in Kyounggido. I already took my vacation (Jan 14 to Feb 7). I came back to work on Feb 8th. Since we finished the book, I was informed by my co-teacher that we would not have any classes until next semester (Mar 6th.) I asked my vice-principal if I had to come to school during that time, since starting next Monday there will be no classes in session. It's over 10 days.

He said I had to come in or I would not get paid. I wish that they could be more flexible. There will be only a few people at the school. There is nothing to really prepare for since my school forces me to use the pre-designed lesson plans made by the provincial office of education.

It looks like I will have bring some books along to fill in the time. I am glad to have the time free from teaching but I wish I could have it away from the school.

Anybody in my boat?



Same here. I got three weeks off. But now I have to come in every day. Sometimes I get to go home after lunch, which really puzzles me. I sit all morning in the office, trying to look busy (now I've done TWO weeks of lesson plans in advance) have lunch and then told "you can go home now." What was the point of me coming in at all? (I live 30 minutes away by bus.)

Still, I'm not complaining, I just don't get it.
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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I just don't get it either. But I'm spending the hols with the principal coz i just don't get it.... I didn't complain, just questioned the point of being here with nothing to do and their solution was for me to 'hang out' with the principal.. doing what I really don't know??????

But one thing I've learned from my time in Korea - plans WILL change, plans WILL fall apart.... So I never get my hopes up or believe that my hopes could be unrealised. You just never know, what's gonna happen.
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