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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: General things you can do or do do to make your job... Reply with quote

atmosphere more enjoyable?

The wife and I do a lot of things: We try to hang out with the other foreigners at our school, we buy people cutesy little gifts (like today we bought a single rose for every teacher and admin. in the school...HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO ALL), we do compliment people on their hair, dress, etc.

These things do make our lives easier. I feel this can be a good thread for newbie's to Korea. Please contribute what you have found to be an effective way of making sure there is harmony amongst your co-workers (Korean and non-Korean). Smile
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smiles, compliments and baked goods go a very long way with Korean co workers
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numazawa



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have answered your own question with the "do do" part. Wink
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, You don't need to be that creative. Just go out drinking with the teachers on a Friday night. If you drink a lot with them and act like you're enjoying their company, on Monday you'll find that you have a ton of new friends at school.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
smiles, compliments and baked goods go a very long way with Korean co workers


Definately baked goods. The teachers all loved the fruit cake I gave them at Christmas.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonstrating that you give a shit about your job and students doesn't hurt either. Mind you, at my old hogwan it did because, as I found out the hard way, we were not there to teach as effectively as possible and the parents' money was all that mattered. At a better school, showing up on time, staying til the end of the day, and doing a lot of lesson prep. does get noticed and rewarded after a while.

Drinking with them certainly helps, too.
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Fredbob



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candy works, chocolate, practicing Korean without asking too many questions, and at any decent school, showing that you actually care about the students learning by showing you've done prep work. I'm still technically a newbie but I've been managing ok at work and usually I get the things I need or want without asking- nice getting all the presents on the holidays and I got a washing machine and bed heating pad without ever mentioning the fact that it was kind of implied by my contract. As a newbie, this kind of thread is definitely helpful, helped me avoid a lot of mistakes so far. Very Happy
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the opposite tack. I come in, get my work done, associate only with the students, and get the hell out. They think of me as being this super teacher who is incredibly caring for the students...when the truth is that I can't stand to hear people chew with their mouths open (and they always eat in the teacher's room).
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I treat my co-workers to lunch or dinner once a month. It might be as simple as ordering in food for dinner, but they do appreciate it. I also bring in gifts like chocolates on valentines day, or occassionally some food for everyone to snack on during the day (like fruit), or I offer to make then a hot drink if Im making myself one.

Doesnt take a lot.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good examples of ways to foster better work relations. Well done!
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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Location: In My Skin

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post.....

Last edited by Tiny_Tibbo on Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically buy off your co-workers to get them to include you in the rest of the human race? Rolling Eyes

Maybe that's what I did wrong....(or didn't do right....)

I don't buy friends at home so why should I here?
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numazawa



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiny_Tibbo wrote:


I don't buy friends at home so why should I here?


Because they're cheaper here.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I treat my co-workers to lunch or dinner once a month. It might be as simple as ordering in food for dinner, but they do appreciate it. I also bring in gifts like chocolates on valentines day, or occassionally some food for everyone to snack on during the day (like fruit), or I offer to make then a hot drink if Im making myself one.

Doesnt take a lot.

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Sounds like it DOES take a lot - of money.

Sounds like you spend a lot of money. Why? Do you think you're going to work there for the next 15 years? Most of us are short term workers. I also don't believe in trying to win people over with money. You should just work hard like a son of a bitch. Show your enthusiasm for the job. Come into work early if you want. They'll respect you more than giving them all the "free Stuff".

A teacher at my previous school said to me "Don't spend your money!" because I was frequently buying treats for the students. In retrospect, when I add up all the money I had spent the year I worked there, it comes up to a small fortune. In the end, was it worth it? Did I convince the students that I am some kind of super teacher that loves them? Maybe not. So, I don't think buying treats for the students or teachers is a cost-efficient way of winning them over into your corner.

That said, this year I probably will still buy treats for the students, but I will cut down a lot from last year. I buy cheap packages of cookies or candies to encourage participation. I figure, if it makes my job easier, it's worth the money

All I am saying is that before you spend all kinds of money, decide if the objective is worth it. I personally don't like to get chummy with all the teachers because they try to consume to much of my time with invitations to coffee. If you like that kind of thing, then please do all the treating you want.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give 'em hell when there's no coffee.

I treat the kids to pizza when they finish a book.
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