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| EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD ALLOW DOG EATING |
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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Gorillas, apes, chimps, cats, parrots-they all need to run for cover when they see you "If it isn't human we'll eat it" folks coming. |
Well..it would all depend on how the dish is prepared?
Parrot on a stick anyone?
Perhaps some Gorilla stew?
Ape steak?
Cat nuggets?
With the proper wine...it could be the start of a new chain of restaurants...lets call them Animal on your plate.  |
I see from this and your other posts in here that you have decided to come out of the closet and admit that you really are just a troll. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Cat nuggets?
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Don't you mean McNuggets? |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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i mean, force feeding a chicken through a tube with chemicals....keeping it in a cage barely big enough for lung expansion...day in and day out...allowing the wire mesh to gradually cut right through it's feet, causing painful, untreated infection...stacking those cages ten high so they defecate on each other...allowing that *beep* to eat right through their skin. |
Now, here's someone who knows nothing of what he's talking about. Force feeding chickens? I'm trying to picture all the manpower necessary to force feed thousands or hundreds of thousands of chickens. Seems like something you might see in some cartoon or something. Ah, now I see. Cages stacked 10 high?
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adrenaline goes a long way, if you're talking about hours. yet no one thinks twice in the line at KFC. |
I think when I'm in line at KFC. I'm wondering why there isn't a Popeye's around here. |
they force feed chickens through tubes stuck down their throats, daffy. i've seen it in person and on environmental action video.
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to SATORI,
have you ever gotten a tattoo? if you had, you would know that the pain only lasts a few minutes, then adrenaline numbs it quite well.
i'm not equating that to blowtorching a dog, but i would surely have to say that a few minutes of blowtorching is far less painfull then acidic crap eating through your skin, and a wire cutting through your foot for months. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:43 am Post subject: |
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What is the relevance of these questions? You are so illogical it's rediculous. I'm supposed to be a philanthropist in order for me to make clear assessments of a culture? This has nothing to do with anything.
(1) You are simply a knee jerk Korea defender with no sense of logic or perspective. Your statement about "just as much racism in Canada as in Korea" tells us everything we need to know about you. You're prepared to fly in the face of all evidence and all reality in order to maintain your position that there is nothing negative in Korea that doesn't have an equal analogue in the west. It's bizarre. You're the ultimate limp wristed cultural relativist.
(2) I on the other hand, have credibility when I criticise Korea, for the very reason that I'm not a Korea hater at all. I'm interested only in reality. I have no bias. If Korea does something well, I talk about that too. I love the place, and my criticisms come from the position of wanting Korea to do better.
(3) When I say that Koreans as a group tend towards nationalism, pride, victimhood, grudge holding, and immaturity, that is a fact Jack. I say it not because I hate Koreans, but because I see a lot of potential here, but will not be realised until there is a more sophisticated and mature view of culture and Korea's relation to the world. They want to be on the big boys playing feild, they've put themselves there with this "hub of asia" stuff, so they now will be judged by the big boys standards. And they have a long way to go before they will have the credibility to make this hub of asia dream come true.
(4) Do you have any idea how you are percieved on here? You are the class clown mate. How would you like to submit yourself to a poll to find out how many people on here take anything you have to say seriously? |
(numbers are mine)
1. And you are a knee jerk basher of Korea. So what?
2. You lost credibility a long time ago. Hey if you can say that about me, I can point out your flaws as well. In the end it boils down to your opinion. No credibility there.
3. "victimhood, grudge holding and immaturity" Sounds like a roll call of certain posters on here.
4. Even if this WERE true (  ) I think you'd still edge him out. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: |
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The questions were not irrelevant or illogical. Your refusal to adress them however speaks volumes kiwiboy. It also shows just how much so called credibility you have.
As for how I am seen or perceived on this board...why would I care???
This is an online discussion board mate. The fact that you or a few more of your ilk get your rocks off by bashing me means just about as much to me as a change in the wind direction. Basically you are just like a fart in the wind kiwiboy. A bad smell that lingers around you for a few seconds and is then blown away and forgotten. The fact that you are a recurring fart just adds to the humour of it all.
By way kiwiboy...run that poll of yours...it should be good for a laugh. Of course you may load the poll with slanted questions as you wish..it is afterall how you approach every element that you disagree with here.
I look forward to your poll..it will be fine evidence that you take this board (and yourself) much too seriously.
Anyway...glad to see you are now truly back to your old patronizing self kiwiboy. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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BTW making negative polls of specific posters here is frowned upon by the mods. A certain poster found that out very quickly when he decided to attack certain other posters by name.
But by all means Mr. Satori (or should I say Mr. Kiwiboy?) carry on with your holy crusade in order to bring enlightenment to these backward people. The White Man's Burden just gets heavier and heavier doesn't it? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Not all dogs are tortured to death just as all animals raised for consumption in the West are not killed quickly. |
(1) The difference is many dogs are beaten to death in Korea, whereas the vast majority of animals killed for consumption in the west are done so quickly (like 99.9% or more).
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(2) We have lines that go beyond culture. But again for the most part they apply to humans not animals. But again as numberous posters have pointed out, the West is hardly blameless in that regard. Talk to people at any animal shelter or most SPCA people. If they've been at it for any length of time they will have numberous stories of animal cruelty. Doesn't make it any more right than here. |
I don't believe that the SPCA is in the business of providing animals for consumption.
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1. Any reliable stats or just pulling this out of thin air?
2. Never said that the SPCA is in such a business. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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i fail to see how some of you take offence with the beating of dogs which, measured in hours, cannot be worse than what poultry farms do to chickens over consecutive months with no reprieve.
i mean, force feeding a chicken through a tube with chemicals....keeping it in a cage barely big enough for lung expansion...day in and day out...allowing the wire mesh to gradually cut right through it's feet, causing painful, untreated infection...stacking those cages ten high so they defecate on each other...allowing that *beep* to eat right through their skin.
adrenaline goes a long way, if you're talking about hours. yet no one thinks twice in the line at KFC. |
Already very well covered. These things are commercial necessities. That doesn't excuse them. If the other way is to produce less chicken, I'm all for it. That does not in any way shape or form make it the equivilant of the toruture of dogs which is TOTALLY not necessary for anything other than the supposed imporvement in taste from the adrenalin. Very different, and I made the point clearly before. One is driven by the need to produce a certain amount to feed the population, the other is TOTALLY optional. |
I believe this is the important difference. The cruelty involved with the western livestock industry is based on monetary concerns. The beating of live dogs to produce adrenline in the Korean dogmeat market is based on an unproven belief that the adrenline in the dogmeat will promote 'stamina'. It's a differnet thing. The western livestock industry does not believe is such stuff.
Is there anything to compare with the vicious beating of live dogs to produce a supposed beneficial meat in western tradition? The nearest example would be the feeding of milk to calves producing veal.
I think some posters on this board know that beating live dogs horribly is wrong no matter what culture or country they come from but, because they have found themselves in a pissing contest here on Dave's, they can't back down.
Own up guys. |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I've been on chicken, pig, dairy, beef, grain farms. FYI, you wouldn't believe the hell grain goes through when it gets the crap beaten out of it in the combine.
I've been inside chicken and pig processing plants.
Those are my stats.
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Also, how do you define torture? Do you limit it to the short time where dogs are alledgedly beaten to death...
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I think beating dogs with sticks until they die is a horrible practice.
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Remember, this is the consistency we're dealing with.
This thread could go on for years. |
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: Canine Cuisine |
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You've all missed the point. We really should be discussing the dog eating experience.
When I tried it, it smelled (faintly) like a dirty, wet, dog. Not all that appetizing.
Some say this was just a bad restaurant, but after having worked a summer in a pork slaughterhouse, I can say with authority that there is a distinct connection between the smell of the live animal and it's meat.
The real question in my mind is: Does anyone eat it because they like it, or is it only eaten to prove one's manhood or to improve one's health?
Feel free to post recipes . . . |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| It tastes nice and except for the way they kill it theres no problem. Tastes nice and is better for you than fried grasshoppers I feel. Both are sold here and as a grasshopper lover. I am ashamed at the way we drive over them on the road |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| I am ashamed at the way we drive over them on the road |
Not to mention how they are captured and then held in tiny boxes without the right to any sort of legal counsel...its an injustice! |
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| I'll eat the grasshoppers over dog any day--as long as they are fried not boiled--much more humane--and crunchy! |
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Canine Cuisine |
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| skindleshanks wrote: |
You've all missed the point. We really should be discussing the dog eating experience.
When I tried it, it smelled (faintly) like a dirty, wet, dog. Not all that appetizing.
Some say this was just a bad restaurant, but after having worked a summer in a pork slaughterhouse, I can say with authority that there is a distinct connection between the smell of the live animal and it's meat.
The real question in my mind is: Does anyone eat it because they like it, or is it only eaten to prove one's manhood or to improve one's health?
Feel free to post recipes . . . |
you are quite right about that. dog soup does smell decidedly like dog. it's a bit weird at first but once you get over that - and if it's good bosintang (which tends to be expensive) - it's really good food.
couldnt give a beep about about how theyre killed personally. sorry, i just don't. |
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