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how much vacation time do public schools offer?
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xCustomx



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: how much vacation time do public schools offer? Reply with quote

i thought it was only 2 weeks, but then i have read other people saying their schools have given them 10 weeks off, and that it all depends on the school. is the 2 weeks paid vacation, and the extra time non-paid? if it is non-paid, does the school offer to help you find jobs during that time? i am going to re-sign with my school until august, hopefully so i can get either a university job or a public school job. thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 weeks...paid and you get 5 million per month for those 2 weeks per year you work.

Also, those two weeks have no more than 2 hours of teaching and and each classroom hour is actually a 10 minute period.

On the plus side you get a limo with driver to pick you up and take you to work and drive you home after you finish your hard 10 minute day.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for being a total smart a$$....can anyone provide some real answers?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on customs...can't you take a joke?

Laughing

If you want to be serious:

thought it was only 2 weeks, but then i have read other people saying their schools have given them 10 weeks off, and that it all depends on the school. is the 2 weeks paid vacation, and the extra time non-paid?

a) It does depend on the schools.

b) It is usually paid vacation.

c) Sometimes teachers are expected to teach during school vacation (special intensive classes). This extra time is paid in most cases.


If you want jobs in University the vacation time also varies from Uni to Uni and many Universities also have hakwons on campus where some of their teachers are assigned to teach.

Hope this helps you out.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
50 weeks...paid and you get 5 million per month for those 2 weeks per year you work.

Also, those two weeks have no more than 2 hours of teaching and and each classroom hour is actually a 10 minute period.

On the plus side you get a limo with driver to pick you up and take you to work and drive you home after you finish your hard 10 minute day.


Kind of brings to light how some people talk on here.
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xCustomx



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do most schools reveal the amount of vacation time that they usually give prior to signing the contract? from what i have read on here, it sounded like a lot of people have been going to work for 8 hours a day doing absolutely nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,

For public schools the contract states how much vacation you get each year.

As for hours in school vs teaching hours, that varies.

Some schools require teachers to be there from 9 to 5 (or whatever the school day is) and others require teachers to be there for class time only.

This is in the contract.
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got about 10 weeks this year, but for some reason, it depends on the school. some of my buddies right down the road got 4 weeks. i don't know anybody, maybe GEPIKers, get 2 weeks, poor guys
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got 16 weeks last year, fully paid. I taught two weeks worth of intensive classes, 4 hours a day. And that was only in the winter vacation, in the summer they didn't give me any work at all.

In the end it all depends on your school. Gyeonggi-do is seeking to have schools strictly enforce that you only get two weeks, to the point that some have reported being forced to sit in an empty school for weeks. They also will likely not set vacation schedules until just before the vacation begins.

In sum, just remember that your mileage may vary and that it can be best to negotiate something right away.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since officials from the education ministries are likely to monitor this site it would be smart to be discrete about broadcasting how much vacation we may get beyond what's stated in our contracts. They tend to get agitated when it becomes widely known that some schools give more vacation time then others...If your school doesn't want to buck the system and give you more than what's stated in the contract I doubt that mentioning what some other schools do will help (and may lead to further crackdowns on the schools that defy the "system" - when your school complains to the ministry...)
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract states 28 working days but I get a little more. So does my friend, who's in the same district with the same contract, and he's getting seven weeks off in winter and presumably the same in summer.

EPIK, it seems, really wants to cut down paid holidays so as to lose experienced teachers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Since officials from the education ministries are likely to monitor this site it would be smart to be discrete about broadcasting how much vacation we may get beyond what's stated in our contracts. They tend to get agitated when it becomes widely known that some schools give more vacation time then others...If your school doesn't want to buck the system and give you more than what's stated in the contract I doubt that mentioning what some other schools do will help (and may lead to further crackdowns on the schools that defy the "system" - when your school complains to the ministry...)


Exactly. If you swing a deal, shut the hell up about it. Offically anyone teaching in Gyeonggi Do gets two weeks. Anything you get above that, best be kept to yourself, as whining teacher X at school D got J weeks of vacation, will just result in everyone getting two weeks.
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Francis-Pax



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accordingto my contract I get 14 days. Basically, 7 days for winter vacation and 7 days for summer vacation. However, this winter vacation I got about three weeks but that was because I had some overtime converted to paid vacation days. Converting overtime to paid vacation days is an option in my contract.
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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EPIK, it seems, really wants to cut down paid holidays so as to lose experienced teachers


Chalk that up to the Korean business mentality and propensity for window-dressing.

GEPIK - "Who cares if he has experience, as long as we can control him."

Me - "But, wouldn't it make more sense to present better working conditions in order to hire a competent teacher with experience who the kids may actually enjoy and learn something from?"

GEPIK - *sucks in air through teeth*
"No, no, no. That is Western thinking."
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jaderedux



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
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EPIK, it seems, really wants to cut down paid holidays so as to lose experienced teachers


Chalk that up to the Korean business mentality and propensity for window-dressing.

GEPIK - "Who cares if he has experience, as long as we can control him."

Me - "But, wouldn't it make more sense to present better working conditions in order to hire a competent teacher with experience who the kids may actually enjoy and learn something from?"

GEPIK - *sucks in air through teeth*
"No, no, no. That is Western thinking."


BINGO. I have been at the same school for 4 years. Now they want to change my vacation to 7days summer 7 days winter.

They want an experienced teacher with proven track record whose student consistently score well on provincial tests and win competitions to go completely backwards.

PEOPLE IF YOU GET A BETTER DEAL UNDER THE TABLE...DO NOT TALK ABOUT OUT IT! THIS IS WHAT CAUSES PROBLEMS! Don't ask don't tell is probably best at this point.

Any successful programs on the radar in Gyeonggi-do got some serious scutiny this year. Schools were fined. And auditors made everyone's life hell. They came to my school swinging their big "richards" around. Swaggering and demanding paperwork and tax info.....some that doesn't even apply to me.

Totally ticked me off as they didn't know what the hell they were talking about. I had to go back to school and show them that I wasn't a Korean citizen and my taxes were paid but only at the amount due and that I HAD NEVER RECEIVED A REFUND.

Then they proceeded to tell my school that I could not have the vacation plan they had always provided me with up to now. This puts the schools in a crappy situation. Even if they agree with the Native Teacher they risk fines and losing their funding if they don't toe the line.

MORONS. I TELL YA MORONS. Yeah, lets lose all these teachers with experience who have shown some commitment to their schools and students...lets replace them with poor drones we can completely manipulate.

Oh dear gawd the humanity.

Jade (I'm not bitter)
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