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tony602



Joined: 13 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: 3 official copies of degree??? 6 sealed transcripts??? Reply with quote

Can anyone comment on this??? Is this a necessity for all newbies??? Ive tried checking other threads for info with no luck....plus sounds like we may need to make visa run to japan....haven't heard/read this before...anyone feel like commenting??? Especially if we should have to do the visa run?

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Oh yes, second to whomever said documents. Bring three notarised copies of your degree and six transcripts.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a recruiter asking you to do this?

It sounds like a scam to me. They want to sell your degrees and transcripts. DON'T DO IT.

You don't even need to send an original degree. You can get a copy notorized by a lawyer and the Korean consulate and that is it. And one copy of your transcript is fine.

Really, I think it is pretty obvious that this is not a legitimate request.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that that poster was saying that so the OP would be ready for the future...ie, a little planning. What happens if you don't like your new school and want to get out of it? If you are able to get a letter of release, you will most likely need the docs to get a new visa with a new school. After your first year, if you decide to stay in Korea, but change schools, you will need the docs. I recommend scanning the notarized copy so you can print it off from a colour copier whenever you need to(I've been doing that since '97). The extra transcripts advice is currently good.

p.s. You'll only have to make a visa-run to Japan or elsewhere if you don't already have your E-2 visa in your passport(processed in Boston, I'm assuming). If you have your visa before leaving, you're good to go.


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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony602,

This advice you received was from an experienced teacher here. It was so you would have extra copies (not originals) of your degree that have been notarized by a Korean embassy and extra copies of your sealed transcripts. These documents are your security, a kind of insurance. His advice was to bring enough so you could go job hunting and get visas in the future. You might stay more than one year and want to change jobs. You might have bad luck and need to get a new job during your first year. Maybe even more than once.

He gave you good advice.

I would suggest 5 certified photocopies of your degree and 10 sealed transcripts, if you plan or might like to stay more than a year or two here. But, I'm probably overcautious.

Good luck.

(And I see that, as I wrote this, another poster gave the same info.)


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tony602



Joined: 13 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: thanx for replies Reply with quote

thanx bigmac, and denverdeath for your replies. No it wasnt a recruiter asking for this info, I read it on the what do i need to take thread posted earlier today...one responder said on that thread to take all these copies...and it did seem unusual to me, i hadnt seen that any place else.......but now that I read denver's response, makes some sense for personal use, and seeking other employment while there.....but no I didnt feel comfortable, nor do i normally, about releasing that much personal info to a foreign office or employer......and denverdeath.....if you read this again......those copies you have scanned, should i seek further notarization of that degree by lawyers or consulates, or is the normal stamp from the university sufficient for when I need to go retrieve my visa and so forth.....again, thank you both, and anyone else who would like to contribute
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: thanx for replies Reply with quote

Just to be clear, but remove 'notarization by lawyer' completely from your memory. Once that's done, just remember notarized degree from a Korean embassy or consulate, plus a handful of unopened transcripts in their original envelopes, sealed by your university. Frankly, I'd even forget about the whole notarization thing altogether and just bring the original, in the event that an overzealous immigration clerk is in a bad mood and decides to be a stickler.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: thanx for replies Reply with quote

tony602 wrote:
thanx bigmac, and denverdeath for your replies. No it wasnt a recruiter asking for this info, I read it on the what do i need to take thread posted earlier today...one responder said on that thread to take all these copies...and it did seem unusual to me, i hadnt seen that any place else.......but now that I read denver's response, makes some sense for personal use, and seeking other employment while there.....but no I didnt feel comfortable, nor do i normally, about releasing that much personal info to a foreign office or employer......and denverdeath.....if you read this again......those copies you have scanned, should i seek further notarization of that degree by lawyers or consulates, or is the normal stamp from the university sufficient for when I need to go retrieve my visa and so forth.....again, thank you both, and anyone else who would like to contribute


The way I did it a long time ago was to send my original degree to the Korean Consulate in Montreal(I'm from New Brunswick). I sent the original degree, a photocopy, and a small fee by Priority Post or FedEx or sth. They certified the copy with a big red Korean stamp saying "Certified True Copy of Original" and sent me back the original and copy. I had a friend scan the copy and save it to floppy disk. I have since transferred the same jpg to a more reliable memory device. It has never failed me. I did this when I began the paperwork. Sent it with the other req'd docs to my workplace in Korea. They processed the paperwork at immigration here(Korea) and received a "Certificate of Visa Issuance" letter(NOW, only a number), which they sent to me. I had to sent it along with my passport and other requirements to the consulate to get my visa in my passport. So, I had to deal with the consulate twice in order to get my first visa. A bit of a pain and a bit stressful getting everything in time for my flight, but it all worked out fine.

I think my best advice to you would be to check with the Boston consulate as I believe some places are now expecting you to send notarized copies when you apply for your visa...I mean ones that you have already gotten notarized on your own. Maybe the original degree is fine. I think I had the original copied and notarized so I didn't have to send my original all over the place all the time.

http://www.kcgboston.org/english/index_visa2.asp

http://www.kcgboston.org/english/index_aboutus1.asp
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tony602



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: denverdeath, chronicpride, excellent info thanx Reply with quote

Great stuff denverdeath and chronicpride, thank you both very much for clearing things up, "10-4" on the Boston thing, and "10-4" on forgetting some of it too....i think im over-complicating slightly.....charachter flaw I need to check, but absolutely makes sense to have both hard copies and electronic copies, which I do, just not stamped by the consulate yet.......one other quick idea.....Im not yet sponsored for the E2, lots of inquiries out, and lots of offers from multiple towns......but, hypothetically speaking.......without the sponsorship as of today......could I show up down at the Boston office and get that "stamp of approval"?? What's anybody got to say on that, wasted trip (since I may have to go back to beantown, or on visa run anyway??), could see friends down that way, but should I just wait for the official sponsorship? Just trying to line up the ducks before I sign my name on the proverbial line....ideas welcome....thank you all!!
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: denverdeath, chronicpride, excellent info thanx Reply with quote

tony602 wrote:
without the sponsorship as of today......could I show up down at the Boston office and get that "stamp of approval"?? What's anybody got to say on that, wasted trip


If by "stamp of approval", you mean getting your degree notarized, you can go and get that done anytime. But if you mean getting the E-2 stamp in your passport, you'll have to wait till you have a school sponsoring you and Korean immigration has processed your paperwork.

Once immigration has processed your paperwork, your school will be issued a visa issuance number which they'll tell you. Then, you go to the Korean consulate closest to your hometown, or if your already in Korea, you go to one in Japan, (usaually Osaka or Fukaoka) with the visa issuance number and your passport and they'll stamp the E-2 working visa in your passport.

Once that's done, your sweet to teach legally. Wink
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: denverdeath, chronicpride, excellent info thanx Reply with quote

tony602 wrote:
Great stuff denverdeath and chronicpride, thank you both very much for clearing things up, "10-4" on the Boston thing, and "10-4" on forgetting some of it too....i think im over-complicating slightly.....charachter flaw I need to check, but absolutely makes sense to have both hard copies and electronic copies, which I do, just not stamped by the consulate yet.......one other quick idea.....Im not yet sponsored for the E2, lots of inquiries out, and lots of offers from multiple towns......but, hypothetically speaking.......without the sponsorship as of today......could I show up down at the Boston office and get that "stamp of approval"?? What's anybody got to say on that, wasted trip (since I may have to go back to beantown, or on visa run anyway??), could see friends down that way, but should I just wait for the official sponsorship? Just trying to line up the ducks before I sign my name on the proverbial line....ideas welcome....thank you all!!


Ah...vacation time...sleep cycle's really screwed up. Wink

Again, I think it's your choice. I had two options when sending the stuff to my first workplace here to get the certificate of visa issuance. One, send the original of my diploma so they could do the paperwork. Two, send the certified copy. There was no way in hell that I was sending my original(even if you are able to get it replaced). You can do the certification thing by mail and then visit your friends when it's time to get the visa in your passport and fly out of Logan rather than Bangor. For me, it would depend on how much time and money I have. Boston's a great place...if you have the time and money, go twice. If you used the mail only, you wouldn't have to go at all.
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tony602



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: thanx again Reply with quote

BigBuds, thanx for your chime-in, one question for you if you follow this up.....any difference between consulate or local notarization of degree before actual acceptance of position, or sponsorship by school? We do have multiple official copies of diplomas ($20 a pop for those for me denverdeath, I heard ya when you said you didnt want to send those babies out, cant blame ya there) but I guess what I dont know/understand is whether or not they will actually notarize facsimile/photocopies of the thing if I have the original present? am I overcomplicating again-----I am a secondary level social sciences guy trying to make this transition to ESL edu------does it show too much???? Very Happy
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tony602



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: thanx again Reply with quote

and thanx to all who are trying to help the newbie out, I do appreciate all this info...Ill buy the beers, or rice wine, sometime....
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what you mean by local notarization (lawyer?) but the only place that can notarize your degree for Korean immigration purposes is the Korean consulate. They won't accept one that is notarized by a lawyer or whatnot. Must have the Korean consulate offical stamp on it.

You'll need to either, take in your original with some copies (photocopies are fine. That's all I've ever used) for them to notarize, or mail off the original with some copies to get them notarized. This can be done anytime before or after you've accepted a position.

After my first year here, I decided to stay and got my mother back home to go to the consulate for me (I was still in Korea) to get more notarized. So, it's a good idea to get a few done at once, just in case.
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tony602



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: I think i got it..... Reply with quote

Excellent BigBuds, just what I needed, sounds like an initial trip to the consulate in Boston might not be such a bad idea afterall....you have all been hugely helpful and i thank you for your posts....also BigBuds, noticed youre in changwon, we're entertaining an offer from there right now, whats your opinion of the town/area/your situation?
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buster brown



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting certified copies of your diploma is the way to go. You don't want anyone else to have control of your original documents if there's an alternative. I had my copies certified at the Atlanta Consulate, but all of them have a paper stick-on stamp in addition to the big Consulate (inked)stamp. It just means that denverdeath's method of scanning and printing won't work with the way they're doing them now. At US$2 per copy it's still a cheap insurance policy.
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