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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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How many people here are real teachers? I am pretty sure if back home they hired a Chinese guy with a bachelor of science, computer science, philosophy, basket weaving, etc etc, gave him the same or more wages and more holidays with less work, the teachers would not be so happy. Also, when the teachers are pretty sure this new Chinese guy is temporary (2 years max for most people) and they are not really even sure if the Chinese guy likes being a teacher and are not doing just to save money or travel.
To the OP, what they did is WRONG. Even with everything I just posted up top, they should still include you in everything and make you feel like a part of the team. I am just showing how they might be seeing the situation. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
How many people here are real teachers? I am pretty sure if back home they hired a Chinese guy with a bachelor of science, computer science, philosophy, basket weaving, etc etc, gave him the same or more wages and more holidays with less work, the teachers would not be so happy. Also, when the teachers are pretty sure this new Chinese guy is temporary (2 years max for most people) and they are not really even sure if the Chinese guy likes being a teacher and are not doing just to save money or travel.
To the OP, what they did is WRONG. Even with everything I just posted up top, they should still include you in everything and make you feel like a part of the team. I am just showing how they might be seeing the situation. |
I still think a lot of it is what you make of yourself. Now, I may have lucked out with an exceptionally welcoming set of co-workers at both my middle school and high school. However, I think it helps when they see you dressed professionally, working hard, coming in early to do lesson planning and photocopying, staying late to do extra work with students, controlling large classes by yourself and teaching with confidence (having an MA and teaching experience appeared to impress them quite a bit, too, however meaningless the former actually is in reality). I was in a similar position to a new KT who was working on a one-year contract and didn't have a Korean teaching licence either. She frequently arrived late, didn't get along with the others, faked being sick, and eventually got sacked. I'm sure I could have accomplished the same thing had I taken her disposition. I think both of us were treated like 'real teachers' (except, not being a Korean female, I wasn't expected to make coffee and it was easier for me to ignore office politics) and I'm here and still very happy because I tried to put 100% into my job and be tolerant of everyone and she's not here and not happy because she didn't. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
How many people here are real teachers? I am pretty sure if back home they hired a Chinese guy with a bachelor of science, computer science, philosophy, basket weaving, etc etc, gave him the same or more wages and more holidays with less work, the teachers would not be so happy. Also, when the teachers are pretty sure this new Chinese guy is temporary (2 years max for most people) and they are not really even sure if the Chinese guy likes being a teacher and are not doing just to save money or travel.
To the OP, what they did is WRONG. Even with everything I just posted up top, they should still include you in everything and make you feel like a part of the team. I am just showing how they might be seeing the situation. |
I still think a lot of it is what you make of yourself. Now, I may have lucked out with an exceptionally welcoming set of co-workers at both my middle school and high school. However, I think it helps when they see you dressed professionally, working hard, coming in early to do lesson planning and photocopying, staying late to do extra work with students, controlling large classes by yourself and teaching with confidence (having an MA and teaching experience appeared to impress them quite a bit, too, however meaningless the former actually is in reality). I was in a similar position to a new KT who was working on a one-year contract and didn't have a Korean teaching licence either. She frequently arrived late, didn't get along with the others, faked being sick, and eventually got sacked. I'm sure I could have accomplished the same thing had I taken her disposition. I think both of us were treated like 'real teachers' (except, not being a Korean female, I wasn't expected to make coffee and it was easier for me to ignore office politics) and I'm here and still very happy because I tried to put 100% into my job and be tolerant of everyone and she's not here and not happy because she didn't. |
I 100% agree with you (and I really mean 100%) but I was giving the OP the benefit of the doubt that he is trying all of that. I am the same. I have recieved 2 and a half extra weeks off (above my contract), and could go on about how good people have been to me here and how much respect I get, but it would take too long  |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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To the OP, what they did is WRONG. Even with everything I just posted up top, they should still include you in everything and make you feel like a part of the team. I am just showing how they might be seeing the situation. |
The fact of the matter is they don't make the OP feel part of the team... plain and simple. So the best thing to do to protect YOUR feelings, dignity etc. is to not take it too personal. I don't suggest that the OP try to see things from THEIR point of view. It's his duty to MAKE them see things from HIS point of view. This is where he could be at an advantage. Everytime there is an opportunity, make sure you emphasize how much you DON'T feel accepted or appreciated. See how they react. Now they have to either defend, attack or change. This way you can make your next move.
As for the pictures, I might point out the yearbook to my boss and say, "hey, I just want to thank you for not putting me in that yearbook. I hate pictures anyway and I certainly don't want to be put in that book for people to see me for years to come. You know how ugly we all look twenty years from now with different hair styles and clothes. Please don't ask me to pose for pictures. God. I really hate pictures! Don't you hate them too?!"
NOW watch the reaction! Now they can never ever ask you for a picture pose ever again. HMMMM. you win! |
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