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jinju
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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It's all over the Korean news too:
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It's pathetic. That news pisses me off. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Time to destroy NK. I say bomb them into oblivion. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Er, no. I'm concerned about this because I know a number of N. Korean girls around that age that I like and I'd rather not see them get bombed, thanks. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Er, no. I'm concerned about this because I know a number of N. Korean girls around that age that I like and I'd rather not see them get bombed, thanks. |
As long as KJI is in power and is not removed then the girls you like will continue living under his tyrannical and sadistic rule. KJI and his cronies must be killed. I would like to see it without mass bombing. What I would ideally like to see is KJI put on trial and executed for his crime along with anyone who helped him control NK. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Er, no. I'm concerned about this because I know a number of N. Korean girls around that age that I like and I'd rather not see them get bombed, thanks. |
As long as KJI is in power and is not removed then the girls you like will continue living under his tyrannical and sadistic rule. KJI and his cronies must be killed. I would like to see it without mass bombing. What I would ideally like to see is KJI put on trial and executed for his crime along with anyone who helped him control NK. |
That's kind of hard to do now that he has (a) nuclear weapon(s). |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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It's good to see that the South's master plan for reunification is proceeding according to schedule. The previous phase was "We bribe the North with cash, food, clothing, oil, factories, and a railroad in exchange for photo opportunities". We've clearly now transitioned to the next step, "They cacklingly take everything we offer and then spit in our faces."
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Er, no. I'm concerned about this because I know a number of N. Korean girls around that age that I like and I'd rather not see them get bombed, thanks. |
As long as KJI is in power and is not removed then the girls you like will continue living under his tyrannical and sadistic rule. KJI and his cronies must be killed. I would like to see it without mass bombing. What I would ideally like to see is KJI put on trial and executed for his crime along with anyone who helped him control NK. |
I'm well aware of that. Now that you've clarified yourself we agree on most things. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
It's good to see that the South's master plan for reunification is proceeding according to schedule. The previous phase was "We bribe the North with cash, food, clothing, oil, factories, and a railroad in exchange for photo opportunities". We've clearly now transitioned to the next step, "They cacklingly take everything we offer and then spit in our faces."
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Disgusting. I really dont understand the pathetic policies of the SK government. I hope the GNP wins and pisses on the Sunshine policy which has been a huge failure. Its time to bring down KJI, pronto. Sunshne policy? Give us the Solar Eclipse policy. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: |
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so weird too...
remember the story of the bus load of cheerleaders that went BERSERK when their bus passed a sign with KJI on it that was half hanging in the mud (not even his face bits).... i recall all kindsa crazines..weeping and such...
It seems kinda weird that THIS particular story would be teh straw to break the camels back doncha think?
Is it cause it's a busload of hot chicks? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I don't doubt for a second that KJI is more than capabale of this sort of thing. One thing though...
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Lee Myeong-ho, a former inmate of the Daeheung concentration camp in South Hamgyeong Province who recently escaped to China, said ��21 beautiful women�� were detained at the camp since the end of last year. ��Later I found out that they were the cheerleading team that had gone to South Korea,�� he said.
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My understanding is that most intelligence agencies treat the testimony of defectors with a certain amount of initial skepticism. In this case, I think the guy does have some possible self-interest in telling this particular story. Think about it. If he just says "I saw people locked up in a North Korean prison camp", that's just another run-of-the-mill NK horror story, which isn't gonna make much of a wave, even among the the South Korean right-wing. But if he says "I saw the famous cheerleaders who captured the hearts of South Koreans locked up in a North Korean prison camp", then BANG, he's an overnight celebrity in South Korea, and he's got instant friends in the Korean conservative camp. None of which probably hurts his chances to accomplish whatever it is he hopes to accomplish in the free world.
Anyway, yes, I don't doubt that KJI has political dissidents, clergymen, truck drivers, dishwahers, and little old ladies rotting away in his prisons. Just that the content and timing of this guy's story, along with the general rule-of-thumb about defectors credibility, would seem to prompt a modicum of skepticism. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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It would be very interesting to know what they said. What would be your guess?
1. "Holy kimchi, even poor people have cars!"
2. "Comrade Kim Ok-soon and I kept flicking the lights on and off all night -- they have electricity available every 24 hours!"
3. "We saw big, hairy WHITE PEOPLE!"
4. "Their subway goes everywhere, and makes ours look like dung."
5. "If you escape from the North, you can make 5 to 7 MILLION WON per month just talking to drunk SK men, and letting them grope you in a hotel."
What else do you think they said? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I don't doubt for a second that KJI is more than capabale of this sort of thing. One thing though...
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Lee Myeong-ho, a former inmate of the Daeheung concentration camp in South Hamgyeong Province who recently escaped to China, said ��21 beautiful women�� were detained at the camp since the end of last year. ��Later I found out that they were the cheerleading team that had gone to South Korea,�� he said.
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My understanding is that most intelligence agencies treat the testimony of defectors with a certain amount of initial skepticism. In this case, I think the guy does have some possible self-interest in telling this particular story. Think about it. If he just says "I saw people locked up in a North Korean prison camp", that's just another run-of-the-mill NK horror story, which isn't gonna make much of a wave, even among the the South Korean right-wing. But if he says "I saw the famous cheerleaders who captured the hearts of South Koreans locked up in a North Korean prison camp", then BANG, he's an overnight celebrity in South Korea, and he's got instant friends in the Korean conservative camp. None of which probably hurts his chances to accomplish whatever it is he hopes to accomplish in the free world.
Anyway, yes, I don't doubt that KJI has political dissidents, clergymen, truck drivers, dishwahers, and little old ladies rotting away in his prisons. Just that the content and timing of this guy's story, along with the general rule-of-thumb about defectors credibility, would seem to prompt a modicum of skepticism. |
An excellent point. If the news is only coming from defectors, keep in mind the US based most of its WMD Iraq information on lies defectors told the CIA. Defectors have a vested interest in making things as bad as possible. One, they're rewarded for telling the government what it wants to hear. Two, they hasten the day the government is forced out of power via invasion or economic sanctions. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Many defectors from Iraq told the straight truth though. Chalabi and his INC buddies were lying, but anybody who didn't realize their agenda was deliberately being a fool.
In general I would say that the track record of defectors is quite good. In this particular case, I would say that the SK gov't. has gone to some lengths to keep NK defectors quiet. It doesn't fit into the Sunshine Policy. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| It would be very interesting to know what they said. What would be your guess? |
Let's pretend they were your typical white North American women types:
"Like, you know, we like went down to South Korea because like, this Kim guy who think he's like totally hot or something told us like we had to go, and I was like: What is up with THAT! He even calls himself "Dear Leader" Ya Right!
So, I was like ok, I can like do that; you point a gun in my face, so maybe I can go, but like I have to stop and pick up some birth control pills first. Besides, like we might have like a good time and stuff and maybe meet some cool guys you know. So, like, we arrived in Seoul, and I was like, OH MY GOD, this place is like so totally happening. I met this awesome guy, and then he went you know, and I was like no way. I'm like, you know, so... you know.. I work out.. ... so like all these guys were like hitting on me and my friends and stuff; they were like giving us their business cards. I like got this like one card from like this really cool guy, and like we really hit it off you know... Then this other girl in the group, who is like a TOTAL b*tch, I totally hate her guts, was like flirting with my man, and I was like I'm gonna F*cking kick your ass, like you know, and like like she got all upset at me, but like now we're best friends you know and like..." |
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