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Back home, do you wear shoes in your HOME? |
Yes, always. |
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Yes, most of the time. |
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Yes, sometimes. |
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Yes, but rarely. |
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No, never. |
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TOGirl

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Since I raised this thing about Brits I found it necessary to ask my parents about this. They are both british and lived there for 40 years or so before moving to Canada.
My Mom said they always wore their shoes in the house. When visiting other people it was considered improper to remove shoes and be in just socks as it was too informal.
I can assure you that my parents were neither farmers nor trailer dwellers, this was simply the norm.
Also, please consider that this was almost 20 years ago that they lived there, maybe the younger generation have changed their ways to a "more civilized" way of living.
And yes when I need answers to life's great questions I just run to Mommy. |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: South of the river
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Im 26 and throughout my childhood I was always told to take my shoes off in the porch...I never did though..My parents didnt..they just told me to because i was a kid and i played outside a lot..but we always had to wipe our shoes before going in...when we remembered.
I dont know anyone in the UK who takes their shoes off as a matter of course...Maybe when theyve just had the carpets washed or if theyve just got new carpets...but after a couple of months its back to business as usual..Obviously if there was mud on your shoes then youd have the common sense to take them off and not trapse through the house in them.
Walking round in socks and slippers just seems odd..Or at least it did when i was in the UK..
Interestingly enough, about the snobbery thing...You will find that the upper classes in the UK are far less likely to take their shoes off inside. Id imagine its to do with having legions of cleaning staff or something. |
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GirlGerms
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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my background is cuban/italian and both sides always take their shoes off in the house. my students have commented how americans and canadians don't take their shoes off in the house and i told them not in my house, i have never known any other way. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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GirlGerms wrote: |
my background is cuban/italian and both sides always take their shoes off in the house. my students have commented how americans and canadians don't take their shoes off in the house and i told them not in my house, i have never known any other way. |
Considering there is an entire chapter devoted to "You don't have to take of your shoes in the house." in the GyeongiDo elementary grade 5 or 6 textbook, I am not surprised. I pretty much skipped this one as it's just not always true. |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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depends.
We had front room entrance and if the weather was bad you had to take off your shoes. But it wasn't a requirement especially for guests. We did not insist people remove their shoes. My parents had parties and nobody had to take off their shoes unless they wanted.
Mud room entrance. Lino flooring leading to kitchen with Lino flooring. We had heavy duty mats out side the door and I can still hear my Mom yelling. "DID YOU WIPE YOUR FEET?" That entrance led to the basement where our family/rec/all round room was located. On that floor was indoor/outdoor carpeting and so unless weather was bad and shoes were muddy you didn't have to take off shoes.
I don't think we had/have "dubious hygiene" or smelly feet. Chores were handed out every day and every room was vac'ed everday or so. And the Kitchen was wet mopped every night after dinner.
Guess we were just low class. We didn't have formal rooms that people just looked at. We were just regular people with lots of kids and gosh according to some "dubious hygiene". Mother will be thrilled to hear that.
Jade (from the home of "dubious hygiene")  |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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jaderedux wrote: |
... I can still hear my Mom yelling. "DID YOU WIPE YOUR FEET?" ...every room was vac'ed everday or so. And the Kitchen was wet mopped every night after dinner.... according to some "dubious hygiene" |
I suspect your mother would ban shoes from the house if she felt the rule would be followed.
In movies some people take their shoes off at their bedside. I guess this isn't as uncommon and outdated as I'd thought, but as this poll of ESL teachers is showing: most of us here never or rarely wear shoes anywhere in a house.
To each their own. In many cultures and subcultures people don't sit on the floor at all, so as long as one doesn't touch it, it doesn't seem unhygienic. Are shoes put up on furniture? (like when crossing one's feet on an ottoman).
But only some people are paranoid about dirt, bacteria, bugs and the like - it's all natural!.
Personally, as long as the floors are lino or hardwood I'm not uncomfortable. Wall-to-wall carpeting though, aren't shoes friendly. If Koreans ever adopt the flooring style en masse (unlikely due to ondol), they already have a clean habit regarding it. |
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pest1

Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
As for my being surprised at the Brits wearing shoes inside, it's largely because they have a long history (as a culture, not every individual by any means) of seeing themselves as "more civilized", and there's a class consciousness of snobbery that seems absurd compared to the Japanese and Koreans when one looks at footwear practices.
It might be a bit naive to expect other people to adopt en masse what is best about other cultures they come across, as the Brits could with dirt in the house and the Koreans could with personal hygiene (washing hands!). |
Perhaps "civilisation" means that people care about the public areas as much as they do with their homes? Perhaps in "civilised" countries people don't spit and litter in the public? Perhaps there is also much less pollution? Most suburban areas have pretty clean streets where I come from. People do take better care of them than in Korea. Although there is still some avoidable dust, wiping your shoes is usually enough to get rid of them, before you enter the house. Now if you are a farmer and lived in the countryside, that could be different. You might want to take off your shoes because you get mud on them.
In Korea, I have seen many people spit and litter in the public and how dirty their streets are. Of course they don't want to walk in their houses with shoes that have nasty trash stuck on them. Same with washing hands. Their public areas are much dirtier. If they don't wash their hands as often, they will get sick. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: |
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No one here is making any general claims about Korea versus Britain or anywhere else regarding cleanliness in general or whatever. This thread is about ONE practice: the wearing of shoes all around town and then into and around the house.
pest1 wrote: |
... Although there is still some avoidable dust, wiping your shoes is usually enough to get rid of them, before you enter the house... |
Do you actually believe that? Only "dust" on the bottom of your shoes?
One benefit of getting to know other cultures is to see different ways of doing things, some better, some worse, depending on your criteria, certainly different. Taking off shoes before walking around in the house is a good thing, cleanliness wise. Hard to dispute that! |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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TOGirl wrote: |
When visiting other people it was considered improper to remove shoes and be in just socks as it was too informal.
I can assure you that my parents were neither farmers nor trailer dwellers, this was simply the norm. |
Css wrote: |
I dont know anyone in the UK who takes their shoes off as a matter of course...
Walking round in socks and slippers just seems odd..Or at least it did when i was in the UK.. |
jaderedux wrote: |
My parents had parties and nobody had to take off their shoes unless they wanted. |
What they said.
And especially the situation Jade mentions.
I suppose if it was just our immediate family or small gatherings of close friends, we could have instituted a no-shoes policy. Wouldn't have been very popular, or comfortable. But doable. However, accommodating everybody at larger parties or big family occasions would mean investing a small fortune in slippers, and also constructing a giant shinbaljang that would only be used a few times a year.
I don't think having guests walk around in stocking feet would have worked, either. These were people from my father's office & their wives, people from our church, sometimes local political functions where I wouldn't know the names of most guests. And then scads of fusty old friends of my grandparents and that generation -- the very antithesis of the stocking-feet-at-the-dinner-table crowd.
Not only would it have looked rather inappropriate (stocking or slippered feet, and you're dressed for dinner & c0cktails at someone else's home ), but it would have been uncomfortable, too. There are some carpets, but it's mostly hardwood floors, stone stairs, and tile -- hard, cold surfaces. Brrrrr... 'No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service' was/is the policy there. |
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Demonicat

Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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My father was in construction and my moms is a stained glass artist, so we ALWAYS wore shoes or slippers at the penalty of ending up with glass or something in the foot. |
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