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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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I call that losing credibility for taking the exact same position over and over again regardless of the circumstances.
I also call that willful ignorance of the fact that Nigeria has over 200 ethnic groups and a lack of interest in any factors besides the obvious religious ones.
The last thing I call that is proof that I could replace a large number of the posters here with bots and nobody would know the difference. |
You've played this card before, mith. When people go after each others' places of worship it is difficult to ignore the religious aspect here. Try as you might. |
As have you, and you have as little interest in knowing about the place as before. That was the problem before, and it is now. Anybody who thinks Christianity/Islam in Nigeria = Christianity/Islam in USA/Indonesia is an idiot. But yes, let's just pretend that Nigeria is a land of one people that suddenly started fighting each other because of religion.
All mob violence should be condemned.
In spite of the fact that both the leaders of the Assembly of Muslims in Nigeria and the Christian Association of Nigeria don't agree with you on the cause of violence, I think I'll just agree with you because hey, we've been over this before and you made your point that you shouldn't have to be a scholar to know when people deserve to get lynched or not. You don't even have to bother with a search on Google news.
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| "The cartoons have not been published in Nigeria. No one in Borno or Katsina has seen the cartoon, so how can it be the cause of the violence? Rev. Hayab wondered. |
Would you like me to spoonfeed you some more information or will you spend at least a few minutes next time before you run off at the mouth about payback? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe everybody should just become Jewish.......be your own mullah....your own Pope......with humor...... |
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Gorgias
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| All conflicts are about the control of wealth. The media just packages it as a religious conflict |
Are you really sure it isn't exactly the other way around. All the great conflicts of history were fundamentally religio-wars. I mean Marx is finished, we can't just go saying it's all about capitalists and means of production anymore.
What is the new paradigm? We can't really say it's about wealth and religion anymore either.
All conficts are about race. All conflicts are about gender. All conflicts are about technology. All conflicts are about sex. All conflicts are about anxiety. All conflicts are about primal-anxt. All conflicts are about primordial dread. All conflicts are about fashion. All conflicts are about language. All conflicts are about grammar. All conflicts are about information. All conflicts are about escilation. All conflicts are about ... |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| All conflicts are about language. |
Yeah, like take the American Civil War for example. I hear that Lincoln's flat prairie drawl played a big role in agitating those Southern grandees to war. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure? http://www.anglicancommunion.org/acns/articles/41/00/acns4113.cfm
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"The cartoons have not been published in Nigeria. No one in Borno or Katsina has seen the cartoon, so how can it be the cause of the violence? Rev. Hayab wondered. |
They weren't published in Korea either, yet we all had a look at them. Venture a guess how?
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| Anybody who thinks Christianity/Islam in Nigeria = Christianity/Islam in USA/Indonesia is an idiot. |
Islam has a lot to do with it. If you want to discuss the nuances and points of interest, fine, that is your parlor game. But it doesn't erase the danger that Muslims very often pose to their non-Muslim neighbors. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
Are you sure? http://www.anglicancommunion.org/acns/articles/41/00/acns4113.cfm
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"The cartoons have not been published in Nigeria. No one in Borno or Katsina has seen the cartoon, so how can it be the cause of the violence? Rev. Hayab wondered. |
They weren't published in Korea either, yet we all had a look at them. Venture a guess how?
And this little gem:
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| Anybody who thinks Christianity/Islam in Nigeria = Christianity/Islam in USA/Indonesia is an idiot. |
Islam has a lot to do with it. If you want to discuss the nuances and points of interest, fine, that is your parlor game. But it doesn't erase the danger that Muslims very often pose to their non-Muslim neighbors. |
(words in bold are mine)
Had you said that at the beginning I might not have responded. The problem was how you justified the work of a mob while clearly showing that you don't know how it happened nor care. I don't care if you don't like Islam.
I also can't find the part in the link you provided that says I should feel good as a Christian (which I am) about the murder of six people by a mob. Could you point that part out? |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I also can't find the part in the link you provided that says I should feel good as a Christian (which I am) about the murder of six people by a mob. Could you point that part out? |
Your Christian feelings are not required. A good show of force by the authorities is. Sadly, it is lacking in those regions. So, what are the people left with? They may be Christians, mith, but they're also human beings. When 'turn the other cheek' becomes 'bury your head in the sand' then extinction cannot be far off. You cannot expect them to choose that. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
The last thing I call that is proof that I could replace a large number of the posters here with bots and nobody would know the difference. |
bigverne = igotthisguitar.... it all makes sense now! |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
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I also can't find the part in the link you provided that says I should feel good as a Christian (which I am) about the murder of six people by a mob. Could you point that part out? |
Your Christian feelings are not required. A good show of force by the authorities is. Sadly, it is lacking in those regions. So, what are the people left with? They may be Christians, mith, but they're also human beings. When 'turn the other cheek' becomes 'bury your head in the sand' then extinction cannot be far off. You cannot expect them to choose that. |
That's what your link states. I have no problem with the link. |
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