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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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 Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Yeah another mackdaddy is writing a textbook! |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Now, if you were writing a textbook and a newspaper was doing an article and they were sending a photographer, would you wear a tshirt that tells the world you consider yourself a male ho:
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/special/200602/kt2006022116103067670.htm
Now, I'm no Brad Pitt but if I looked like that guy in the picture I wouldn't go around trying to tell the world I'm a mackdaddy, especially when I want to attract the attention of publishers and respectable professor types who will use my book.
Does this guy look like a pick up artist? Would you believe he was a mackdaddy from that picture and tshirt? I mean, I'd be more inclined to believe his tshirt if it said "I was hatched from an egg." |
not really. it's a t-shirt. and the term macdaddy has reached 'kitch" status in pop culture anyway.
it has nothing to do with what he's trying to portray any more than what you are trying to portray by revolving your avatars with different women who cross your path, all dressed up in gowns and such. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I think he is jealous cause he wants a mackdaddy shirt also. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| If Bill Gates wore a mackdaddy tshirt, I'd laugh my ass off as well. It just looks stupid. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
It's laughable and embarrassing. When I had *ah hem* my photo taken for the dust jackets on my books, I wore a tie, eh. |
So you will bear this advice in mind when the time comes to have your photo taken for the dustjacket of your book, right PT?
But it's true, your fashion sense leaves a lot to be desired. What you should have been wearing was this:
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I'll credit the author with enough sense to dress up when the occasion is appropriate-- I've worn a t-shirt too sometimes. Besides, not many of his Korean audience will know what a 'mackdaddy' is anyway. The first time I heard the term was a few years ago on an episode of the Simpsons when Bart joins a boy band!
I hope the book does well. I was really surprised when I came to Korea at how very few useful books there are for learning Korean. I've thought of writing one myself for absolute beginners, because it would be easy for me to think like one!
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| The example I like to point to is a certain literary form used by poets where the S-V-O order is switched to facilitate rhyming. The same is done in the lyrics of old English hymns (to allow them to rhyme) I wonder if the freedom to do that might not have come from encountering Korean grammar, (e.g. a sort of early-fascination-with-the-East form of imitation.) |
This is an intelligent comment, but it's not the case, and not because of reasons of west-east mixing or not. Old English was grammatically much more of a synthetic language (one that conveys meaning through word endings) and less of an analytical language (one that makes meaning clear through word order). This is not because of a Latin or French influence, but because these languages evolved from a common language which emphasized word endings.
To make this a little clearer, the order of words in a sentence in Old English was much freer than in modern English because the endings of the words told you who was doing what to who. In Latin, the order of words was almost irrelevant-- you can say canis mordet hominem in any order, and the is and em endings tell you that the dog bit the man. English was not quite this free, but close until Viking invasions and the Normans brought so much confusion into word endings that more fixed word order became necessary to keep things understood.
Anglo-Saxon poetry was based on alliteration and not rhyming (kind of like a Dr. Seuss book), and medieval English poetry adopted the Romance style of rhyming. Nowadays we might think of phrases like "bring me my fiddlers twelve" or "a man careworn was he" as a kind of affected playing with the language, but this would have been perfectly acceptable English in the centuries before Shakespeare.
Interestingly, Old English has some similarities to Korean in that sentences were simpler and more densely packed, but lacking fine shades of meaning. For example, English originally had no articles, just as Korean doesn't; it just had a way of saying "that" boat over there, and tha became "the". It would be interesting if the Korean word for "that" someday becomes used for more specific purposes. But I think it would be a mistake to overemphasize any historical connection between European and Asian languages; something as elemental and vital to early European tongues as gender is completely absent from Asian languages, and many don't even mark number.
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| I'll credit the author with enough sense to dress up when the occasion is appropriate-- I've worn a t-shirt too sometimes. Besides, not many of his Korean audience will know what a 'mackdaddy' is anyway. |
Being interviewed by one of the biggest newspapers in Korea is not enough reason to dress up? I'd like to think it is. And as to what's written on his shirt, what does it matter if its Mackdaddy, The 5 Stages of Soju, or Harvard Debate Team, it's still just a dang t-shirt. As a generalization, people with jobs do not wear t-shirts in Korea, especially to said job.
To Mackdaddy, you look like a decent enough guy were you playing basketball or sitting at the bar, but in the context of teaching, whether it be EFL, KSL, or whatever, you look like a bum. The photographer probably thought you were a bum, as did the reporter, the newspaper's readership, and potential publishers of your book. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt as to why, but stopped after reading your comments.
Worse then the afore mentioned, and I'm not saying you are though probably are, are the "too cool for school" types, typically in the 20's, in Korea for a year stint, and at their first job out of college. These people think that they are exempt from presenting a business-like image, simply because they come from a western country and/or have never presented that image before. These people tend to be the same that blither on about their boss not treating them like professionals, Koreans being rude to them, etc. They don't realize that Korea is a contextual society. You wear a suit/tie at work, you tuck your spandex pants into your Argyle socks on the mountain, and everyone's in peace and harmony. Doing otherwise helps perpetuate the inferior notion of foreigners often shown in the Korean media, and lessens the ESL profession.
Would a pair of khakis and a dress shirt kill you? |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Why is everybody so hard on this guy for wearing a damn t-shirt? Has everyone become Korean?
When I worked for CBC Radio in Canada pretty well all of us walked into work looking like bums on a daily basis. If we wore anything other than jeans and a t-shirt our co-workers would look at us strange. We would interview some pretty important people looking like that too. I never heard any complaints. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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It says the picture was taken during an interview at his apartment. I never answer my door at home in a suit. I don't care who is dropping by.
Also, judging from the guy's comments in his post, the newspaper had several pictures to choose from and chose this one. I guess the newspaper wants to portray foreigners like "this". |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Mac wrote: |
Why is everybody so hard on this guy for wearing a damn t-shirt? Has everyone become Korean?
When I worked for CBC Radio in Canada pretty well all of us walked into work looking like bums on a daily basis. If we wore anything other than jeans and a t-shirt our co-workers would look at us strange. We would interview some pretty important people looking like that too. I never heard any complaints. |
Because you were working for CBC RADIO. Tell me you see a difference between being on RADIO and having a photo in the paper. Operative word here being: SEE |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
It says the picture was taken during an interview at his apartment. I never answer my door at home in a suit. I don't care who is dropping by.
Also, judging from the guy's comments in his post, the newspaper had several pictures to choose from and chose this one. I guess the newspaper wants to portray foreigners like "this". |
Do you think he changed clothes sevaral times so that in the other photos he is wearing a suit? And do you think he was surprised by the kkock on the door thinking its his frienf the Pimp MacDaddy only to find out its a reporter and a photographer? |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju...good thing it's not you in that picture, huh? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| jinju...good thing it's not you in that picture, huh? |
Id wear a suit or atleast a nice shirt. Its for a photo in quite a large newspaper. And if I wore a tshirt it sure would read "mackdaddy", "pimp" or anything as stupid as that. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Big Mac wrote: |
Why is everybody so hard on this guy for wearing a damn t-shirt? Has everyone become Korean?
When I worked for CBC Radio in Canada pretty well all of us walked into work looking like bums on a daily basis. If we wore anything other than jeans and a t-shirt our co-workers would look at us strange. We would interview some pretty important people looking like that too. I never heard any complaints. |
Because you were working for CBC RADIO. Tell me you see a difference between being on RADIO and having a photo in the paper. Operative word here being: SEE |
True. But the TV guys didn't dress much better than we did. There was one guy who had a tie and a black jacket that he would slip on when he did his standups. Others just put on CBC jackets.
I was responding to the point that some people were making that you shouldn't wear a t-shirt to work. Maybe in Korea. But for Westerners we shouldn't be too surprised that some would think it is OK...since we do it quite often in the West. |
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Return Jones
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Peeping Tom]...They may have each borrowed a few words for items which they acquired from the items, but that would be about it....[/quote]
The relationship between Korea and Portugal may have been more in depth that you think. My girlfrfiend majored in Portuguese at Hankuk Uni. and says that there are quite a few words borrowed from Portuguese. Bbang (bread) is one example she happened to mention just the other day. Actually, one of her best friends (Korean) is in Portugal now doing a thesis on the Korean/Portuguese relationship throughout history. |
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merlot
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| I can't take it anymore. I'm going outside to see if there is any paint I can watch dry. |
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