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HELP: Anyone ever had transcripts returned from Immi?

 
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: HELP: Anyone ever had transcripts returned from Immi? Reply with quote

Bit of a crappy situation I'm in right now, and I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience/advice with this situation...

Applied for a job last week, as a couple with my boyfriend. We got the job, gave our degrees and sealed transcripts to the director and he took them to Immigration.

I also submitted a release letter from my current job (which had many many months notice that I was quitting, and it was done on good terms). When Immigration looked at the release letter, they decided there was an "Error" on it, in that it was titled wrong, and would not accept it. My new director called my old boss to get her to re-write the letter. She found out my new school is close to hers, and decided that she doesn't want me to work for this new school, because she fears students will change to my new school. So, she basically said that she would NOT issue me a new release letter and I am stuck with no way to work -- except for her -- for a couple of more months.

So aside from being furious over that, the new school had no choice but to not hire me, and as a result, not hire my boyfriend (he only has housing for a couple).

He returned our uni degrees, but told us that Immigration would not return our transcripts to him, because THEY (ie/ Immigration) had opened them, hence rendering them USELESS!

Now, I can't get a job, but my boyfriend needs to find one ASAP. New transcripts from his university will take at least one month.

Has anyone ever had any luck - or ever tried -- to get Immigration to either return their transcripts (maybe Immi can re-seal them with their own stamp or something??) OR for them to just use the transcripts they have on file for us?

Are we totally screwed??
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP: Anyone ever had transcripts returned from Immi? Reply with quote

HamuHamu wrote:
Bit of a crappy situation I'm in right now, and I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience/advice with this situation...

Applied for a job last week, as a couple with my boyfriend. We got the job, gave our degrees and sealed transcripts to the director and he took them to Immigration.

I also submitted a release letter from my current job (which had many many months notice that I was quitting, and it was done on good terms). When Immigration looked at the release letter, they decided there was an "Error" on it, in that it was titled wrong, and would not accept it. My new director called my old boss to get her to re-write the letter. She found out my new school is close to hers, and decided that she doesn't want me to work for this new school, because she fears students will change to my new school. So, she basically said that she would NOT issue me a new release letter and I am stuck with no way to work -- except for her -- for a couple of more months.

So aside from being furious over that, the new school had no choice but to not hire me, and as a result, not hire my boyfriend (he only has housing for a couple).

He returned our uni degrees, but told us that Immigration would not return our transcripts to him, because THEY (ie/ Immigration) had opened them, hence rendering them USELESS!

Now, I can't get a job, but my boyfriend needs to find one ASAP. New transcripts from his university will take at least one month.

Has anyone ever had any luck - or ever tried -- to get Immigration to either return their transcripts (maybe Immi can re-seal them with their own stamp or something??) OR for them to just use the transcripts they have on file for us?

Are we totally screwed??


First off, you should ALWAYS have several copies of ALL official documents on hand (transcripts and degree at a minimum)

But that doesn't help you now, so I will just answer your questions.

Immigration demands new sealed transcripts with every new job. Period. They will not reseal or return the transcripts. Nor will they use the transcripts they have on file. New transcripts must be used. Your boyfriend will have to order new transcripts (and it would be advisable to get several copies).
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the transcripts won't come back. You're stuck with going through the whole process again. Are you sure you want to repeat the fact that you agreed to leave your company on amicable terms??? Your employer sucks.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I don't comprehend is why you have to go through this same discipline every time you get another job here....you'd think that they'd have a networked database that they can scour applicants on for previous visa issuances. But I conclude that would be to convenient and they wouldn't be able to get that auxiliary 40 hrs of overtime that makes them look indispensable to their administrators!
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
What I don't comprehend is why you have to go through this same discipline every time you get another job here....you'd think that they'd have a networked database that they can scour applicants on for previous visa issuances. But I conclude that would be to convenient and they wouldn't be able to get that auxiliary 40 hrs of overtime that makes them look indispensable to their administrators!


Hey, gotta look busy for the boss, you know! Maybe in 5-10 years time they will get around to making a networked database (which will crash every 2-3 weeks) thus causing even more overtime and a bigger backlog of visa applications.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I see it, the only thing you and the b/f can do is to find a new job farther away, pronto. A few tears and an envelope of cash from the newest boss should do the trick.

Good luck.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably weren't forceful enough with immigration. If immigration broke the seal on the transcript, that's their problem. They received it with the seal and that's all that should matter. The old school probably called immigration and they illegally refused your LOR. An LOR is an LOR. Doesn't matter about the title. You could write it on toilet paper and title it "A Sunny Day in Peru". As long as it has the old school's stamp on it, it should be fine.

I'd contact a lawyer if I were you. That should straighten things out. Don't accept crap like this.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
I'd contact a lawyer if I were you. That should straighten things out. Don't accept crap like this.


---Yup. That will sort things out real quick. Sure. Have you ever hired a lawyer over transcripts before? Have you ever hired a lawyer before? Lawyers will not solve our problems because we are always talking about small money (even 10 million won is small money) or stupid little problems.


Just get new transcripts and do it again.
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
An LOR is an LOR. Doesn't matter about the title. You could write it on toilet paper and title it "A Sunny Day in Peru". As long as it has the old school's stamp on it, it should be fine.

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One would think that should be true...but apparently this isn't the case.....
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HamuHamu wrote:
jacl wrote:
An LOR is an LOR. Doesn't matter about the title. You could write it on toilet paper and title it "A Sunny Day in Peru". As long as it has the old school's stamp on it, it should be fine.

.


One would think that should be true...but apparently this isn't the case.....


Sound like immigration just gave the OP a hard time because of something his ex-boss said.
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rainyqueen



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here for almost 6 years, and never stayed at the same school for more than one contract. I've never had a sealed transcript, and I've gotten it back each time (the last of which was last summer). It's in my closet right now.

Heather
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