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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Proven by whom? |
(1) Sociological researchers
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Well-known by whom? |
(2) People who read.
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There are no links or statistics to back this up. |
(3) I thought it was common knowledge by now. And I think you know that too, but alright, if you`re going to get snotty I`ll go find the references.
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It's simply a claim made by liberals to bolster their self-esteem. |
(4) Er no, that would be a better description of your post. |
Numbers are mine
1. Names?
2. Convervatives read too.
3. Common knowledge---a common myth shared among liberals does not common knowledge make. Common knowledge would mean (by definition) that most people irrespective of political bent would know this. Yet I have to see a single conservative admit this.
4. Until I see references and research (not theories made up by little-known liberals) my point remains absolutely true. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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2. Convervatives read too. |
Obviously not as much as liberals. And when they read something they don`t like, they conveniently fail to notice it.
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3. Common knowledge---a common myth shared among liberals does not common knowledge make. Common knowledge would mean (by definition) that most people irrespective of political bent would know this. Yet I have to see a single conservative admit this. |
Of course they dont admit it! That has nothing to do with whether it`s true, which it is.
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4. Until I see references and research (not theories made up by little-known liberals) my point remains absolutely true. |
You have no point. You`re just putting your head in the sand, solid conservative behaviour. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
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Politically conservative agendas may range from supporting the Vietnam War to upholding traditional moral and religious values to opposing welfare. But are there consistent underlying motivations?
Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:
*Fear and aggression
*Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
*Uncertainty avoidance
*Need for cognitive closure
*Terror management
"From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents, either independently or in combination," the researchers wrote in an article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," recently published in the American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin. |
I remember this one making the rounds of blogs a while ago. I wonder how it held up to peer review and if there has been complementary research on liberals -- certainly it is a natural impulse to choose your ideology (even if subconsciously) in order to satisfy psychological needs. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm..
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2006/01/social-psychology-and-politics.html
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Studies presented at [a conference last week] produced evidence that emotions and implicit assumptions often influence why people choose their political affiliations, and that partisans stubbornly discount any information that challenges their preexisting beliefs.
Emory University psychologist Drew Westen put self-identified Democratic and Republican partisans in brain scanners and asked them to evaluate negative information about various candidates. Both groups were quick to spot inconsistency and hypocrisy -- but only in candidates they opposed.
When presented with negative information about the candidates they liked, partisans of all stripes found ways to discount it, Westen said. When the unpalatable information was rejected, furthermore, the brain scans showed that volunteers gave themselves feel-good pats -- the scans showed that "reward centers" in volunteers' brains were activated. The psychologist observed that the way these subjects dealt with unwelcome information had curious parallels with drug addiction as addicts also reward themselves for wrong-headed behavior. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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I admit that hard information about this is hard to find on the net, Ive been trying for two hours. I read this in several articles a few years ago, back in the west where I could actually get hold of a wide range of literature in English in the printed medium. I did find this information, from a CNN exit poll on the Bush Gore election:
Of post graduate degree holders, 52 % voted Gore and 44 % voted Bush. Not very conclusive, but still in favour of my thesis. I`ll keep looking. |
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dutchman
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I admit that hard information about this is hard to find on the net, Ive been trying for two hours. I read this in several articles a few years ago, back in the west where I could actually get hold of a wide range of literature in English in the printed medium. I did find this information, from a CNN exit poll on the Bush Gore election:
Of post graduate degree holders, 52 % voted Gore and 44 % voted Bush. Not very conclusive, but still in favour of my thesis. I`ll keep looking. |
Does possession of a post-grad degree suggest something about a person's intelligence? Or simply 2-4 more years of hyper-liberal brainwashing?
What does a 100k+ yearly income level suggest about a person? Higher intelligence? Greater drive to succeed? Strong work ethic?
The exit polls in Arizona also showed:
Those earning more than $100,000 a year leaned more heavily toward Bush...
The few voters who earned $200,000 or more leaned toward Bush with 63 percent. Kerry's biggest support by income came from voters earning $15,000 to $30,000, with 57 percent.
http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/w-administration/big-money/wealthier-vote-back-bush.txt |
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patchy
Joined: 26 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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I like the title of this thread.  |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the original title made me think this thread would be something about pubic hair "pubes". Mighta been a better thread. That's the only thing I suspect liberals really know anything about.
Maybe I'll change my name to "igotthiscigar". |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the original title made me think this thread would be something about pubic hair "pubes". Mighta been a better thread. That's the only thing I suspect liberals really know anything about.
Maybe I'll change my name to "igotthiscigar". |
It is relatively entertaining to find someon who *apparently* is an Independent or Libertarian who is as patisan as any Republican or Democrat.
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| I like the title of this thread. |
Thanks. However, I usually stay away from the sophomoric "repubes" thing, but since this was a COMEDY-related thread, I thought it fit.
Silly me!!!
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ontheway
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Sorry EFL, that was my best imitation of a late night comedy joke. They can always fall back on Monica, the cigar, Gore still looking for ballots, or how dumb Bush is. I haven't been watching at all in Korea, so I don't know their latest fall back jokes.
Gerry Ford always falling down or hitting people with golf balls and Dan "potatoe" head have gone out of fashion.
I'm really equally amused by both the dems and pubes. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| What does a 100k+ yearly income level suggest about a person? Higher intelligence? Greater drive to succeed? Strong work ethic? |
That depends.. if you're a conservative writer, a high income means you are an effete sissy liberal out of touch with authentic real Americans who make $15 - 25K a year.
Unless of course, you vote Republican. Then you are part of what makes this country great. And those poorer folks who vote Democratic are either welfare queens or brainwashed by the Great Librul Media.
Really, I think to make a living as a writer in the conservative 'movement' you have to either be incredibly cynical or have a very high tolerance for cognitive dissonance. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| I like the title of this thread. |
Thanks. However, I usually stay away from the sophomoric "repubes" thing, but since this was a COMEDY-related thread, I thought it fit.
Silly me!!!
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This was supposed to be a funny thread?
I thought was all about elitism in late nite tv.
You should've called it
"One more reason to watch Craig Ferguson." |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| This was supposed to be a funny thread? |
Where's my spoon and a bib??
I do enjoy Feguson. Is he on the tube in Korea? |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I admit that hard information about this is hard to find on the net, Ive been trying for two hours. I read this in several articles a few years ago, back in the west where I could actually get hold of a wide range of literature in English in the printed medium. I did find this information, from a CNN exit poll on the Bush Gore election:
Of post graduate degree holders, 52 % voted Gore and 44 % voted Bush. Not very conclusive, but still in favour of my thesis. I`ll keep looking. |
Does possession of a post-grad degree suggest something about a person's intelligence? Or simply 2-4 more years of hyper-liberal brainwashing?
What does a 100k+ yearly income level suggest about a person? Higher intelligence? Greater drive to succeed? Strong work ethic?
The exit polls in Arizona also showed:
Those earning more than $100,000 a year leaned more heavily toward Bush...
The few voters who earned $200,000 or more leaned toward Bush with 63 percent. Kerry's biggest support by income came from voters earning $15,000 to $30,000, with 57 percent.
http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/w-administration/big-money/wealthier-vote-back-bush.txt |
We`re talking about intelligence, not income, so why you posted this I have no idea.
Obviously people making higher incomes might be inclined to vote republican cause they`ll get to keep more of thier money. |
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