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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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As you may/may not know many Koreans use the word "hate" very often. That is because they truely hate one another from the other side of the mountain. Needless to say what they think about you the mixed-race foreigner. I heard many Koreans from the Jeolla province have migrated to the Incheon area.
That is where the lowest of the low are from according to some Korean people. Those people have been discriminated against for years by their fellow brothern, they often have an accent and particular appearance which can be detected from other Koreans(in some instances foreigners).
Many Korean mothers who are not from that area tell their children to stay away from those kind of students in school.
I was told from another Korean that my former employer was/is from the Jeolla province area. My former employer fired me illegally among other very nasty things. You do the math! |
Lived in the cholla area for years. Good people, don't believe every thing you hear. |
Exactly. My father-in-law is from there. |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks fellas. So how important do you think location is in choosing a job?. I have a couple of offers in better locations (Muk Dong, Anyang) but the best one (money,trust, hours) is for Seogu, Incheon. If you were a first timer would you make the location a major factor in your decision?. |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im in Seogu....Im the only white guy here.
I have been here since October and NEVER seen a white person.
Where would you be working? Which "Dong."
Ask to speak to the other foreign teachers at the school (if they exist) ....and then get there emails, give them to me and then I can start meeting people during the week (It not that I dont like Koreans but I find intelligent conversation easy to have with a native speaker..of course).
As a teacher who lives is Seogu, I would say.....
DON'T
COME
HERE
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EVER!!!
Ok, well maybe not EVER. Every weekend I have to travel to Seoul (not bad because I have discovered that express buses are available), which means you have to travel back. Now, if there were more Westerners going to Seoul, you could share the cost of a taxi between you in the wee hours. But I know NO Westerners here so I usually hangaround, dragging the night out so that I can get the bus back at 6 am.
Location is important, but the job is even more important.
I love my job and I LOVE my life here in Korea (easy work, good pay, free time, nice apartment) but I hate my location. Overall, Im having a blast. And it going to get even better when I move next year.
Having said that, if my job had been bad, I may have left after a few months.
I know friends who hate their job despite having many friends they can hang out with. Id rather be in my position
Next, year I hope to move to Seoul or Bundang.
PM me if you want to know more. |
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Goro-chan
Joined: 15 Apr 2004
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I've just got a short term gig in Yeonsu-gu (but the nearest subway station seems to be called Woninjae...go figure?!)
There seem to be plenty of other foreigners around here - and plenty of them seem to be from South Asia too. There's everything you need within 10 minutes walk, including all the fastfood chains you'd ever want, a big LotteMart supermarket and a 9-screen cinema. There are also express buses that take about an hour to Seoul, or if you go by subway it takes 80 minutes or so (but you have to transfer trains about a million times!!)
As far as I can tell I'm about as far away from Seoul as I can get while still saying that I live in Incheon. I think it is an okay place, but there's certainly no nightlife so if you're into that kind of thing, then think "central Seoul".
PM me if you want to know more about Yeonsu, Incheon. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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I've been in Incheon for four years as well. I'm in total agreement with Big Scott. I love it. Out in Yeonsu- the air is better than anywhere in Seoul I've been in. There are plenty of foriegners here and all are a lot more friendly than the Seoul variety.
There are a few clubs where foreigneers hang out and then there is bupyeong and Bucheon, all good places to go. It also cheaper to live here than in Seoul.
Thee are a few places I would avoid if you want to meet foreigneers like Seogu, but if you get close to the subway, then you have no worries.
Go to Bupyeong and find the "Goose" and you will have a good time in a cheap bar.
I look at it this way, you make the best of what you have, or you can make the worst of it. It's up to you. Good luck |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| I'll repeat what some people have already said on this thread. Avoid Incheon at all costs for the sake of your sanity. I speak from experience. I think the Americans should have diverted that plane from Hiroshima to Incheon during WWII. It might have actually cleaned the place up a bit. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, I actually have a bit of a soft spot for Incheon. Probably the best year I've had in Korea yet was the one I spent living in Gyesan-dong, northern Incheon. The air was no better or worse than the air in Seoul, but it seemed like the foreigners and Koreans I met there were a lot friendlier than the people I meet in Seoul.
I think that if you live in Incheon, as long as you're on the subway you have easy enough access to Seoul that Incheon can be very liveable. I'm not sure I'd recommend Incheon over Seoul per se to most people, but you definitely shouldn't turn down a good job just because it's in Incheon either. |
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the ape
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Jungle, Mighty Jungle
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Thanks for all the advice guys, its reassuring to know that there is help when you need it ....I owe you guys a beer!.
Well I have the Incheon contract signed and in its courier pack with the other paperwork. Barring any last minute changes I should be teaching in public schools in Seo-gu, Incheon by the end of the month. In the end I went with security over location ...I didnt want to mess around with immigration on my first visit. I picture a grey korean city that will be totally unlike anything I have experienced before and I think I will get that anywhere I go. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice guys, its reassuring to know that there is help when you need it ....I owe you guys a beer!.
Well I have the Incheon contract signed and in its courier pack with the other paperwork. Barring any last minute changes I should be teaching in public schools in Seo-gu, Incheon by the end of the month. In the end I went with security over location ...I didnt want to mess around with immigration on my first visit. I picture a grey korean city that will be totally unlike anything I have experienced before and I think I will get that anywhere I go. |
Welcome to Incheon!! It's not nearly as bad as all the naysayers have mentioned. At first, I was really put off by the city, but really it's a growing and changing place, friendly people. A little too quiet for those who need to get drunk and party every weekend, but fairly convenient place to live otherwise. I've been living here in Gye-san Dong for 2 years, and am VERY comfortable here. |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: Gyesan dong |
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Hey there,
Are you near SeoGu Chun? I live in Shin Hyun Dong. I think you might be near. w00t w00t.
Ape man, send me a PM when you get here. I'd like to show you the sites....but they have yet to be built. |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Job comes first, even more specifically your boss. If you work for an alcoholic/psycho director then the odds are your life will be rough here.
Good job=more chance of enjoying Korea
Bad job=more chance of leaving Korea before the year is up.
I'm not saying it's true in every case but my advice is to find a reputable school/uni/company as a priority rather than location. |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| weatherman wrote: |
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As you may/may not know many Koreans use the word "hate" very often. That is because they truely hate one another from the other side of the mountain. Needless to say what they think about you the mixed-race foreigner. I heard many Koreans from the Jeolla province have migrated to the Incheon area.
That is where the lowest of the low are from according to some Korean people. Those people have been discriminated against for years by their fellow brothern, they often have an accent and particular appearance which can be detected from other Koreans(in some instances foreigners).
Many Korean mothers who are not from that area tell their children to stay away from those kind of students in school.
I was told from another Korean that my former employer was/is from the Jeolla province area. My former employer fired me illegally among other very nasty things. You do the math! |
Lived in the cholla area for years. Good people, don't believe every thing you hear. |
I don't believe everything I hear. On that note I heard the cholla area celebrates annually an ANTI-American Day. The people in that area have the closest ties to North Korea. |
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pauly
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| semphoon wrote: |
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| Thanks fellas. So how important do you think location is in choosing a job?. I have a couple of offers in better locations (Muk Dong, Anyang) but the best one (money,trust, hours) is for Seogu, Incheon. If you were a first timer would you make the location a major factor in your decision?. |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im in Seogu....Im the only white guy here.
I have been here since October and NEVER seen a white person.
Ask to speak to the other foreign teachers at the school (if they exist) ....and then get there emails, give them to me and then I can start meeting people during the week (It not that I dont like Koreans but I find intelligent conversation easy to have with a native speaker..of course).
Ok, well maybe not EVER. Every weekend I have to travel to Seoul (not bad because I have discovered that express buses are available), which means you have to travel back. Now, if there were more Westerners going to Seoul, you could share the cost of a taxi between you in the wee hours. But I know NO Westerners here so I usually hangaround, dragging the night out so that I can get the bus back at 6 am. |
We're around...and not all of us are white. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, I actually have a bit of a soft spot for Incheon. Probably the best year I've had in Korea yet was the one I spent living in Gyesan-dong, northern Incheon. The air was no better or worse than the air in Seoul, but it seemed like the foreigners and Koreans I met there were a lot friendlier than the people I meet in Seoul.
I think that if you live in Incheon, as long as you're on the subway you have easy enough access to Seoul that Incheon can be very liveable. I'm not sure I'd recommend Incheon over Seoul per se to most people, but you definitely shouldn't turn down a good job just because it's in Incheon either. |
Thanks, Sir, I'll look for a job there right away. Seriously, Sir, I will go to it!
Sincerely,
Roch |
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UncleAlex
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: A first timer? |
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For a first timer, location should be considered more important than salary
if the difference is not that significant. The better the location, the less chance
of culture shock and homesickness.  |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: A first timer? |
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| UncleAlex wrote: |
For a first timer, location should be considered more important than salary
if the difference is not that significant. The better the location, the less chance
of culture shock and homesickness. |
Not for everybody though  Sometimes, just like a pool on a cool day, for some people it is better to just jump in. Some people have heart attacks doing this though ...  |
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