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ultrahipnosis · Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Location: Pusan, South Korea

Hello,

My current school makes me teach so-called "outside" classes as a part of my regular teaching hours. These classes consist of teaching business English at local companies around the city. Although I must pay for my own transportation and I do all of the work myself, I am not given any extra compensation. On top of that, I have to spend an extra 40 minutes commuting to and from the classes each day.

In my contract, it says that the pay rate for outside clases is W20,000 per hour, but I'm receiving the same pay as I would if I were teaching at the school. Recently, I heard that it is illegal for someone with an E-2 teaching visa to teach these types of classes. Can anyone cofirm this? My situation is making me miserable.

bigscott · Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Location: Incheon

Very simple answer..
On an E2, if it is not listed on the back of your ARC, it is illegal to teach in another location. Bring this to your employer's attention. I hope it works out well for you.

BigBuds · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon

This toatlly 100% illegal if your haven't gotten prior immigration approval. If you have been given approval by immigration it will be written on the back of your ARC card. They will write the locations of the extra places you are teaching at on it.

Your boss and the boss of the extra place(s) you are teaching at need to go to immmigration with a contract signed by both of them, your ARC card, fill out a form and pay a fee, can't remeber how much off the top of my head but somewhere between 30,000 and 60,000 won. If immigration approves, they'll write the new locations on the back of your ARC card and then it's all nice and legal to teach at those places.

If your boss decides he wants to send you to any new places, then he has to go through the whole process again.

poet13 · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject:

hello all.
i posted a similar thread last week (or so) regarding this.
during my contract negotiation last week i brought this up to my boss. she has me running out of school classes, once a week, 12 to 16 weeks at a time. i told her this was illegal, and that i would be happy to teach those classes (i really like them) IF and ONLY IF my ARC was endorsed. told her that i do not break the laws in this country. no privates, no drugs, no boinking the sixteen year old students (my immediate predecesors were arrested and deported for all three)
well, she freaked. started shouting at me that she decided where i worked, not me, not the government, not immigration.....etc. guess she thought i was resfusing the work... she gave me some song and dance that because it was only 2 hours per week, and for a government office (library)...and ya know, i was halfway starting to believe her, until she said she was doing it for free.....then she lost me....
later everything calmed down. i will deal with it when the time comes.

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

poet13 · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:

id love to deal with it, but i'm not sure exactly how to without getting myself into trouble. I have tried the direct approach, which was to show her the kgov website that said it was unlawful, but she insisted that her circumstance is different. I cant exactly turn myself in, duh... and i dont feel comfortable talking to and expalining the situation the people who manage the outside facility, cause then they would just go back to her, and then life would truly be hell....
suggestions?

canuckistan · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject:

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Fat Sam · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Location: Gyeonggi-do

I worked for a year, teaching companies away from the hagwon, when it was illegal to do so. I found out about it thanks mostly to this website. When I confronted the boss and refused to work unless I had immigration approval, he took my passport and said he would sort it out the next day. All he did was put it in his top drawer where I retrieved it from just before I left. He told the company that the bus had broken down so I couldn't make it that day. The corrupt bar steward paid a visit to immigration with a big wad of notes which seemed to do the trick.

Kukje Adult Institute in Suwon. For the five foreign teachers currently there, refuse to work company classes without immigration approval. It's illegal and you could get deported.

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

poet13 · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:46 am Post subject:

i think thats what i will probably have to do. trouble is, its 2 hours by train, and i work morning and afternoon. no time to do it. poop! i will also likely have to accept as a given that any monies owed to me, (severance from first contract and airfare) will be refused and i will be released. that hurts my family. damned if i do and damned if i dont.

why, in a contry that gets so damned up tight with their rules and regs should it be so difficult for me NOT to break the law?

poet13 · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:48 am Post subject:

have to do, as in go to immigration and get it sorted.

sorry, other people posted while i was typing....

poet13 · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:47 am Post subject:

opps, would it be ok if i changed that to "NOT to break the law"?
jeez this englishee stuff is so hard sometimes....

plato's republic · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece

poet13,

what on earth were the teachers before you doing 'boinking the sixteen year old students'? And how did they get busted? Sounds like a story needs to be told.

Pak Yu Man · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy