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RachaelRoo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:05 am Post subject: A new Korean trend? |
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A few weeks ago, I asked my class of eleven year olds where little Joe was....he had been gone for several days. This is a class of mostly boys, about 10 or 11 years old.
"He's getting operation" they snicker, pointing at their crotches.
"He's getting a what?" I ask.
"Dick operation, dick operation," they laugh. Okay, they're obviously joking. So I go to one of the Korean teachers and ask where little Joe is.
"He's getting an operation", she says, pointing to her crotch.
"WHAT kind of operation?" I ask.
"I forget the name..uh.....uh....." she says, sticking out her left index finger. She then takes her right fingers and makes the scissors sign, which she uses to pretend to chop the end of the left finger.
"He's getting CIRCUMSIZED!?"
"Yeah that." She wasn't joking.
The poor boy comes back to my class a few days later, looking traumatized and bleach white.
Today, I noticed that little Frank had been gone for a while.
"Where's Frank?", I ask.
"Same as Joe! Operation." They must be kidding.
Just then little Frank walks in, totally white and looking ashamed.
"Frank! Are you okay?" I ask.
"No."
WTF? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| This has been going on for a long time. It is normal for boys this age to get it done, they don't do it when they are babies. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, my girlfriend's older brother waited until basically his wedding night before he got it done. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| In the local vernacular, circumcision is known as the 'circumYIKES operation'. |
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betchay
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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in the poor areas of the Philippines, they just use a sharp knife to circumcise boys aged 7-up and it's not even done by a doctor... after the cutting, they have to jump in a river... the wound is then cleansed by boiled guava leaves... my two brothers were circumcised this way  ... most boys wouldn't do it any other way... it's considered a rite of passage... |
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Njord
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| What a horrific "right of passage!" Why would they do this? It is a bit easier to understand with babies. (No significant harm, no significant advantage, just a strange cultural whim of some parents.) But with a young boy? And in a developed country? I guess this must be forced as I can't imagine a boy agreeing to such a procedure. |
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thursdays child
Joined: 21 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Just asked some (Korean male) friends about this...... they all (3 of em) got 'the snip' at about 13. And thought I was strange to think that was strange. |
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thursdays child
Joined: 21 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Ohhh not finished.
So it's not "a new trend" coz these fellas are all in thier late 20's. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| What a horrific "right of passage!" ... But with a young boy? And in a developed country? |
Do you think Korea is a developed country?
South Korea, another relatively newly industrialised country, does not consider itself as developed. This has led to accusations that it prefers to avoid the obligations placed upon developed nations, and some organizations do not consider it developed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_nation#Other_cases
Developed countries
Organizations such as the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the Central Intelligence Agency, generally agree that the group of developed countries include:
The following non-European countries:
Australia
Canada
Israel
Japan
New Zealand
United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_nation#Developed_countries
Paradigm shift
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift |
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Njord
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
Do you think Korea is a developed country?
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Yes, I think it is fair to say so. At any rate, it is far closer to the developed end of the spectrum. If you prefer, I can call it a newly industrialized country. It doesn't change the main point, that I find this rather shocking. (Not that shocking is always terrible. Note, for example, the ritualized cannibalism of Christianity. I think most would agree that this is worse, however.)
I have also read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, although I'm not sure I accept its application to fields very far from the natural sciences. And much of it is often misunderstood, but that is beside the point. |
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seoulkitchen
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: |
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One time one of my boys, the class clown, showed up with what looked like a papercup stuffed in his pants and everyone was laughing.
I thought it was a joke about entering puberty or something until he illustrated what happened on the board.
Too funny.
The konglish for it seems to be 'circled'. "Teacher, I got circled!" |
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