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Heritage Institute of Language Arts - Please Help!!!
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marisaw



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Heritage Institute of Language Arts - Please Help!!! Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone has heard of Heritage Institute of Language Arts in Seoul? I recently got a job offer and I am considering taking it but I have not heard anything good or bad about this school. I searched Dave's and the web in general and I cannot find any information. I would really appreciate any comments about the school.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to ask for contact numbers/addresses for current employees at the school. They are the best people to ask.
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:10 am    Post subject: heritage Reply with quote

Ah... Heritage.... my first job in Korea. I began working there when it first opened, and taught the very first day. It's in Gayang-dong near the E-Mart. I couldn't have asked for a better place to begin teaching. And I helped a friend get a job there this past September, and she has stayed the whole time with no problems. It's not a chain... and I think the boss looks after his teachers pretty well. If you want to know more, feel free to pm me.
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marisaw



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both for your help. I got the email addresses of some people from the school and they all really enjoyed the school so it looks like I'll be working there. Thank you again.
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chinook



Joined: 17 Mar 2004
Location: canada

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one have anything else to say about Heritage School?

And I was wondering about the location. Kangseo-ku, Seoul, which is near Mokdong apparently. Is it near a subway?

Thanks!
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinook wrote:
Any one have anything else to say about Heritage School?

And I was wondering about the location. Kangseo-ku, Seoul, which is near Mokdong apparently. Is it near a subway?

Thanks!


There is a subway station in the Mokdong area it is on Line No. 5 (?)
You are lucky if you livethere because there is also a big Carrefour supermarket and Costco too.
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DallasTexas



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Mr. Ju is recruiting for a public school, as he often does......

Do not take the job. I repeat DO NOT take the job.

Mr. Ju, undoubtedly, explained that he would need access to your private bank account, that he would need your login and password. With this information he will withdraw your total paycheck from the school, then he would "pay" you about a week later.

This is a kickback scam, and if it is done from YOURbank account, who exactly do you think will be responsible for the kickbacks? It would be you. Do you think you can explain to the authorities that someone else was using your personal account?

This is a great coverup for the crooks, they are using westerns' bank accounts to engage in illegal activity.

When the story hits the press, do you want to be left holding the bag?
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ajstew



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: heritage Reply with quote

"If Mr. Ju is recruiting for a public school, as he often does......
Do not take the job. I repeat DO NOT take the job.
Mr. Ju, undoubtedly, explained that he would need access to your private bank account, that he would need your login and password. With this information he will withdraw your total paycheck from the school, then he would "pay" you about a week later. This is a kickback scam, and if it is done from YOURbank account, who exactly do you think will be responsible for the kickbacks? It would be you. Do you think you can explain to the authorities that someone else was using your personal account? This is a great coverup for the crooks, they are using westerns' bank accounts to engage in illegal activity. When the story hits the press, do you want to be left holding the bag?"

Let me clarify something a bit here. Mr. Joo does not recruit for public schools... he recruits for a 'private' elementary school, where you would not get hired unless you went through him since he has had a relationship with the school for a number of years. Having said that, you are right, that he does get a kickback, which I imagine he feels he deserves since you wouldn't have the job without him. All I can say is that you will get paid between 30-35,000 for a 50 minute class. Would you get paid more if you got the job without his help? Sure, you would get quite a bit more, but it's a moot point, since you can't work there without going through him. You also are not bound there throughout the day as you would be if you were working in an EPIK type program. You finish and you go. Those are a few things you should keep in mind.
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DallasTexas



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is true that the best jobs are those that include allowing a recruiter to have access to your private bank account. Obviously, there is a reason for that: they have to sweeten the pie to talk people into the situation.

I think that if you allow someone/anyone to use your name and account for any activities, you are asking for trouble.
How will you prove it wasn't you paying the kickbacks?
After all it was your account?
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: heritage Reply with quote

ajstew wrote:
"If Mr. Ju is recruiting for a public school, as he often does......
Do not take the job. I repeat DO NOT take the job.
Mr. Ju, undoubtedly, explained that he would need access to your private bank account, that he would need your login and password. With this information he will withdraw your total paycheck from the school, then he would "pay" you about a week later. This is a kickback scam, and if it is done from YOURbank account, who exactly do you think will be responsible for the kickbacks? It would be you. Do you think you can explain to the authorities that someone else was using your personal account? This is a great coverup for the crooks, they are using westerns' bank accounts to engage in illegal activity. When the story hits the press, do you want to be left holding the bag?"

Let me clarify something a bit here. Mr. Joo does not recruit for public schools... he recruits for a 'private' elementary school, where you would not get hired unless you went through him since he has had a relationship with the school for a number of years. Having said that, you are right, that he does get a kickback, which I imagine he feels he deserves since you wouldn't have the job without him. All I can say is that you will get paid between 30-35,000 for a 50 minute class. Would you get paid more if you got the job without his help? Sure, you would get quite a bit more, but it's a moot point, since you can't work there without going through him. You also are not bound there throughout the day as you would be if you were working in an EPIK type program. You finish and you go. Those are a few things you should keep in mind.


Are you an apologist for this guy?
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: heritage Reply with quote

ajstew wrote:
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Let me clarify something a bit here. Mr. Joo does not recruit for public schools... he recruits for a 'private' elementary school, where you would not get hired unless you went through him since he has had a relationship with the school for a number of years. Having said that, you are right, that he does get a kickback, which I imagine he feels he deserves since you wouldn't have the job without him. All I can say is that you will get paid between 30-35,000 for a 50 minute class. Would you get paid more if you got the job without his help? Sure, you would get quite a bit more, but it's a moot point, since you can't work there without going through him. You also are not bound there throughout the day as you would be if you were working in an EPIK type program. You finish and you go. Those are a few things you should keep in mind.


Actually Mr Joo recruits for more than one elementary school. He has foreign teachers and koreans alike. He makes everyone do the secret bank account scheme. He probably makes about 10- 14 million a month tax free.
You will get screwed around tax time. Your income will look huge and it will put you in a much higher tax bracket.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the school in question doesnt really need Mr Joo. They can just hire the teacher and save the school a lot of money in the process.
But if they did that the principal couldnt steal money from the school by using the accounts of its teachers.
Really shameful behavior from a school that touts itself as the best elementary school in korea.
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marisaw



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Heritage Reply with quote

I believe chinook was asking only about Heritage school which is completely different from what you are all talking about. I currently work at Heritage and we have a teacher leaving soon so there is an available position. Heritage is not really in the Mokdong area it's near it but not quite. The apartment where you would live is a 15 minute bus ride from the nearest subway station. The location is not great - there's really nothing to do in Deungcheon-dong but it could be worse. Heritage is a reputable school. I'm not sure how Mr. Joo runs his other schools but there is nothing to worry about at Heritage.
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: joo Reply with quote

"Are you an apologist for this guy?"

An apologist... no. I worked for him and worked at an elementary school such as the one being discussed and I know the inner workings of what goes on in the situation. It might have been better to ask "Do you know the guy?" Or, "Are you knowledgable about what is being discussed?" Since when has stating the facts about a person or school meant that one is an apologist. I just prefer he not be slandered by untrue statements such as the one that he recruits for public elementary schools which I do not, to the best of my knowledge, believe he does. Private yes... public no.
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chinook



Joined: 17 Mar 2004
Location: canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marisaw - so, you like the school?

I can't get a handle on where the school might be. How far away from the Carrefour in Mokdong are you?
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