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cypher
Joined: 08 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| here, here, Jade. That was great. I can see that what you have is not an attitude but an opinion and a brain (OMG, it's unheard of!), though I'm not a guy and I'm not struck blind by yellow-fever...though I too have a thing for Jet Li, and I agree the Are You Gentle guy is hot. Now, some guys are confident enough to handle a woman with brains as well booty, and some are not. I am happy to leave those in the latter category to other women. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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It's funny when you are in Korea and you read sites like this and hear from other guys about how great Korean women are compared to girls abroad, particularly your home country...After a few years, you are almost completely convinced that it's TRUE.
Then, you finish your job, go home or take a trip elsewhere in your home country and realize "DAMN! It's a beautiful world"
The fine ladies are everywhere. Lower proportion in Western countries? No, much broader land. Where the hell else are Korean girls gonna go outside of Seoul, Busan, or Daegu?
Also, don't lower your standards because of the fact that you only see Korean ladies every day. They aren't ALL that hot. Sure, they wear skirts and high heels more often, but that only goes so far... |
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The evil penguin

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Also, don't lower your standards because of the fact that you only see Korean ladies every day. They aren't ALL that hot. Sure, they wear skirts and high heels more often, but that only goes so far... |
It's goes a long way..... especially in nostalgic journeys down the Korean memory lane.....
Trust me, come here to my old stomping ground where the local ladies of home-country swagger around with over-developed bodies (and we're not talking in a costmetically enhanced or naturaly aesthetically boosted way) encased in flanellette shirts and jeans..... and you'll appreciate the skirts and high-heels of korean girls a bit more.... Admittably, rural australia is not exactly the most renowned palce in the world for quality talent.... but even so.... Even when visiting the "big smoke" and cruising the main streets..... its invaribly the passing asian women who cope the discreet (i hope) second glance....... I haven't quite got to the pointing and staring stage (complete with the loud exclamation "Ohhhhhh there's an ASIAN woman) yet, but I'm getting pretty close... |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| cypher wrote: |
| here, here, Jade. That was great. I can see that what you have is not an attitude but an opinion and a brain (OMG, it's unheard of!), though I'm not a guy and I'm not struck blind by yellow-fever...though I too have a thing for Jet Li, and I agree the Are You Gentle guy is hot. Now, some guys are confident enough to handle a woman with brains as well booty, and some are not. I am happy to leave those in the latter category to other women. |
Well you're clearly a lady of considerable brains, posting as you did something about intelligence when that is of total irrelevance to what's been discussed so far (unless you wish to say that guys with "yellow fever" like women who have no brains or "yellow" ladies themselves have no brains). Very smart stuff, dear.
Since you've raised the issue of intelligence, I like women with brains very much. I've also no problem with women who are less intelligent than me. I'd happily date a girl who's downright stupid if she was pretty and fun (cue the inevitable "she'd have to be stupid to date you, SPIN!"). What a poor use of intelligence it would be to avoid unintelligent people when surely the most intelligent thing one can do is embrace all kinds of person, from the lowly earthworm to the lofty, transcendent warrior. The kind of woman guys don't like, however, is the lady who believes she is intelligent when, in fact, she isn't particularly. |
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cypher
Joined: 08 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Dear Spinoza, I am sure you are a man of inordinate intelligence. So I am also sure you will understand why I brought up Jade's intelligence. Prior to her post, there were some people who were commenting on the perceived attitude of western women. I don't know their particular experiences, however, I generally find, when a man brings this up, it usually has something to do with the lady having an opinion, an opinion that differs from theirs. Granted, an opinion does not equal intelligence, however, I thought Jade's post was well thought out and intelligently constructed.
I did not comment on the intelligence of Korean women. I have met many intelligent Korean women. However, most of the Korean women I have met also look for something very different in men. I have talked to a number of them about this. The first thing on their list (of those I've talked to) is generally money, followed by kindness or gentleness. The first thing on my list is intelligence, and by this I don't mean booksmarts, I mean the ability to have an interesting and engaging conversation. I don't avoid people who are less intelligent that I am, it would be such a lonely life after all . However, when looking for someone to spend a great deal of time with, I want someone intelligence and wit. So the second item on my list is a sense of humour, something you also seem to have in spades. I'm sure we'd get along famously. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Why are you still talking about this? Jeezus. I said the girls in the USA were still georgous (sp). SFW. I did not say anyone else was not. I stated a preference which is fine, I did not denigrate others. I think I am accused of acts of omission. Ya well ho hum.
The girls that touched my psyche when I was 16 are still special to me. They had first names like "Karen" and "Sharon" and last names like "Schroeder" and "Wysong" and "Janiszcewski". The had nice hair and nice clothes and had a body that was excitingly different than mine. When you leave an impression with a man at that stage, he stays impressed pretty much forever.
If you want insight on when I went "multicultural" and I don't know why that you would, type this into Google - "Viviana Executive Positions".
Yea I had a good time here. I enjoyed the bohemian coffee shops and the packed bars and that pee water beer We yanks are so good at making. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Dear Spinoza, I am sure you are a man of inordinate intelligence. So I am also sure you will understand why I brought up Jade's intelligence. Prior to her post, there were some people who were commenting on the perceived attitude of western women. I don't know their particular experiences, however, I generally find, when a man brings this up, it usually has something to do with the lady having an opinion, an opinion that differs from theirs. Granted, an opinion does not equal intelligence, however, I thought Jade's post was well thought out and intelligently constructed.
I did not comment on the intelligence of Korean women. I have met many intelligent Korean women. However, most of the Korean women I have met also look for something very different in men. I have talked to a number of them about this. The first thing on their list (of those I've talked to) is generally money, followed by kindness or gentleness. The first thing on my list is intelligence, and by this I don't mean booksmarts, I mean the ability to have an interesting and engaging conversation. I don't avoid people who are less intelligent that I am, it would be such a lonely life after all . However, when looking for someone to spend a great deal of time with, I want someone intelligence and wit. So the second item on my list is a sense of humour, something you also seem to have in spades. I'm sure we'd get along famously. |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: |
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this guy applauds you jade for your comments. Maybe many of the guys here go ape for Korean women because they are such losers that a north american woman would have nothing to do with you and the only girls you can get are wide-eyed Korean women who think you are the best NA has to offer (of course there are some korean girl-western men couples that this does not apply to) and you are better than most Korean men.
as jade said the mix here is about the same as in NA, nothing different here. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Seems I've stirred a hornets nest........so be it, was my intention. Tell the truth and everyone screams...........unfortunately too, you got to explain what the truth is to some others, they can't see it. And also, after all is said and done, yes Jade, it is a preference....
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if obesity and feminazi personalities weren't such factors, i think guys would be singing a different song.
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Chimp, I totally agree but most importantly I was stressing the mind set of American women, particularly the fact that so many are dislodged from the center of their own "womanhood" and become mere figureheads, pseudomales. This too is why I used the word "lesbian".......I have no problems with a real lesbian but unfortunately like all things American, this natural function has been co-opted, watered down by those who are "slaves to freedom"........Much too long a discussion to go into but American women "in general" are women only due to the long roots of biology..........culturally , they are as men, a pity and don't think the world will be any better a place because of it.......women are even meaner when wearing men's pants.
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| Go ahead and send down the insults |
Jaderedux, your post was full of the insults. You read what you wanted to read into my words.....exposed yourself fully . I am nowhere near the person you described.
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| The point is GREAT YOU LOVE ASIAN WOMAN. |
I never said anything about Asian women. I love all WOMEN. My words were addressed towards American "women".
so many other crap statements you threw out that were insulting...just one as an example...
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Many of you sound like those men who have to have trophy wives/girlfriends. I am not so insecure that I get my self worth from what is hanging off my arm.
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Bravo for you but my girlfriend is anything but a trophy. .....I love her for what she is and chose her for what qualites she espouses.....not to have her on my arm. Been there, never done that. Please read your post and see so many other insults you hurled....
I only spoke my opinion. Spoke about American women as what I believe they represent. Prevalent lesbianism, obesity are but symptoms of a wider mindset in the American women's psyche....it was this that I pointed as being what I am against......as I stated," I think there are many fantastic women, the world over".
I do stand corrected for not stating clearly that I was speaking about 2nd/3rd/4th generation American women, primarily white, Anglo Saxon.........America has a whole wack of WOMEN. Sorry I didn't make that point clear.
DD
I guess I've lived too long outside of America to appreciate American women.......or maybe it is the other way around. I've lived too long outside America so I don't anymore (being free of the cultural inertia/brainwashing) appreciate American women. [/quote] |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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The new Yu_Bum_suk action figure...
Have you guys not noticed this yet? |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Location: In front of my computer, again.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: |
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What about with friendships? Some guys are still into dating western women, some say the Korean women are better... but what about when you want someone to -talk- with who can understand you?
All you men who prefer Korean ladies (or insult western women) are you friends with western men, or Korean men? Do you have any --real-- or at least semi-decent Korean male friends? Are you able to conceive of friendship (real friendship) with a Korean guy?
I think if you have no (interest in making) Korean male friends, which means you must not really understand the culture of the women you are/want to date(ing), then you have a fetish, I'd say. How can you think you'll understand her if you can't understand the way her father or brother acts?
Now, this is just me, but I figure if you prefer Korean women, you are still --open-- to having a Korean guy for a friend, but if you are one of these people who insults western women and objectifies Korean women, then I'd say you probably have no interest in Korean male friendships, and the guys you hang around with (if you hang around anyone besides your woman that is) are western, too.
I don't mean to dis anyone who didn't click with a Korean guy friend yet... I mean, making friends isn't always that easy, but --are you open to it?--
It seems that the same people who call western women names are the same ones who call Korean men names... curious, isn't it?
I think I'm so tired I might not be making sense. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a couple of Korean male friends, one of whom I was quite close to, that I fell out of touch with after I moved (and then the one I knew better moved to the US). Unfortunately most of the Korean men I know now are older co-workers, but I like hanging out with them from time to time. There are also a couple of younger guys I hang out with at the gym. Actually, it would be nice to have more English-speaking k-friends of both sexes where I live. I have no problem with k-guys at all - it's boorish, drunken ajoshis who think they're king shit who get under my skin. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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The new Yu_Bum_suk action figure...
Have you guys not noticed this yet? |
Oh, vely vely cuta! |
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deessell

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think there are many fantastic women, the world over.....but American women ain't where its at. Not just for beauty, lasting beauty but also for the mind set. I prefer my woman as WOMEN. Dulouz, you can keep all the lesbian, fat American chicks. I prefer my women as WOMEN. I think most people here know what I mean, I don't have to qualify that. But as some other famous Canadians said......
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Um...I am neither a lesbian or a fat chick...what happened get shot down by an American woman????
Why can't it be left at "I think Asian woman are beautiful" ? Does it always have the cavet ....and all american chicks, western chicks are fat, combat boot wearing lesbians???
I think the guy who played the older brother in Taeguki is hot! And I happen to think Jet Li is hot and the guy who does that "are you gentle commercial is hot.
But I don't say man those lame, out shape, tattooed, pierced, baggy pant wearing, drunked up, chin pube growing, hasn't seen a barber in 6 months , maple leaf patch wearing guys make me want to puke in my cereal. Cuz there are some of those here and there are some damn fine looking western men running loose and I think it is great.
But ya just can't let it go at preferences can you? You have to be insulting. I assume you are an orphan and have no female relatives or friends. I am sure they would appreciate the way they are described on this board.
You know I have been in country for 5 years now. I have not seen the wandering herds of behemoth western women chomping on a double whopper in one hand and a bag of fries in the other. All the while kicking men aside to get to the nearest woman.
What I have seen is a normal mix. Some fat, some not so fat, some really thin, some pretty some not so pretty. Some I just want to say...sweetie no more fast food its just not what you need.
I have also seen alot of guys I want to b*tch slap and say do you understand the theory of an iron, washing machine, barber and perhaps that thing in your bathroom called a shower? Oh yeah and quit combing your hair with a cuisinart.
Me I prefer smart men. I like someone I can carry on a conversation with. I also am a bit of geek and love comic books and anime. So joe jockstrap doesn't do it for me. But hey whatever floats your boat. I think men are great. Some don't do it for me but for someone else it might be their ideal man. But I don't have to put down an entire group of men from one entire country just because they are not my preference.
My father and grandfather are mexican. They prefer women with a little um...junk in the trunk. My mother was very very curvy not obese but defintely carried some junk in her trunk. That's what he liked. He was stationed in Korea before and after the war and he used to tell us how beautiful the woman here were or could be had they just had some meat on their bones.
On the other hand when Univision used to show carnival in Brazil. My dad and brothers were absolutely glued to the t.v. Well until Mom caught them.
The point is GREAT YOU LOVE ASIAN WOMAN. Good for you! JUST DON'T INSULT every other woman. Why must you be so shallow. God forbid any woman you ever are with get sick or get disfigured or get a diease that makes them less than your ideal. Many of you sound like those men who have to have trophy wives/girlfriends.
Loyality, decency and love are crap as long as you are HOT. How sad for you because time is your enemy too. You won't always be young and soon enough your hair will recede and grow in places where you don't want and those hot girls giggling...cuz they want to flirt ...nope.....laughing cuz you think they might be interested in YOU....!
Sad sad men here sometimes.
Go ahead and send down the insults. I expect it but unlike you I am not so insecure that I get my self worth from what is hanging off my arm.
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Say it loud sista!!!!!!! |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Um...I am neither a lesbian or a fat chick...what happened get shot down by an American woman????
Yu Bum Idiot, gets some attention from girls because he's exotic and different. So instead of thinking that perhaps the reason he doesn't attract any fun, sexy western women is because he is neither fun nor sexy himself, he blames it on all those western chicks that have turned him down. |
Folks, I am sooooo sick and tired of hearing the old "so you've been shot down by an American chick huh?" Like that is something thats gonna destroy our worlds? Hey, let me let you in on a little something......we've(American men) ALL been shot down by an American girl at some point. I have...and I've also had very attractive women take me up on my advances. I mean to listen to some of you(the guys anyway, with the women its just a flimsy power trip thing) you come off like every single girl you ever asked to dance said yes. When a Western woman would snub me I would simply move on to the next one. My preference for Asian women has nothing to do with my success or lack therof, and I've had experience both ways. I prefer Asian women simply for this reason. I like to date women in my own age range(30-35) and the Asian women in that age range are, in my opinion overwhelmingly superior in looks and sexiness to their American counterparts. There are some absolutely beautiful American women in their early to mid 20's. But the maturity factor has to be dealt with as well as the taboo of dating a guy my age (I'm good looking regardless) that many of the girls of that age range have. Most of the women in my age range were really showing their wear and tear, many were overweight, and some were just downright immature - more than I would expect from someone their age. I simply can find what I am looking for a whole lot easier over here than I could over there. It's not because I am a "loser", I wasn't and I could walk into an American bar right now and within probably 20 minutes be holding a conversation with a fairly desent gal. Where it would go from there who knows, who ever does? But I would by no means just be getting no, no no, no, no all night long like many of you all insinuate happens to guys with a preference toward Asian ladies.
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| What I have seen is a normal mix. Some fat, some not so fat, some really thin, some pretty some not so pretty. Some I just want to say...sweetie no more fast food its just not what you need. |
My girlfriend, a very hot Filipina, and I were traveling on a subway the other day and an American (Army guy) and his American (wife, girlfriend?) were in the same car as us. He was checking my gal out pretty intensively. His woman wasnt ugly, she wasn't rail thin but not obese either. The main thing about her was that she was wearing no makeup and was dressed pretty slouchy. Had she been dressed up a little more like my gal and weaing some makeup she would have rated a little higher I'm sure. What I am trying to say is that most of the American women I have seen over here are not necessarily ugly(although some are pretty well overweight) but they dont take care of themselves that much and aren't very conscious of how the look to other people or maybe they simply dont' care? If thats the case it is a personal decesion, but don't be put off when our eyes are drawn to a woman who does take the time to do the things that captures our atttention.
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