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Discrimination against Korea-Americans (Gyopos)
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
OCOKA Dude wrote:
mithridates wrote:
OCOKA Dude wrote:
jinju wrote:
Your opinion was based on total untruths. You were simply wrong on every point you raised.


I haven't been able to find anything on the Immigration's Web site regarding your Fake-5 visa. I'd like you to provide cites regarding yours, if in fact you really have one, or is it just one of those special visas that exists in your head?


I found it.


Very useful being that it's all in Korean. Ostensibly, these visas are for non-Koreans. How about providing a cite in English? I've looked at both Immigration's, MoJ, and the link to the Korean Embassy's web site in Australia that another poster provided earlier. Haven't been able to find a thing in English about these so-called F-5 visas for foreigners. Could it be that Rafal, aka "Jinju", is dyslexic, and actually has a 5-F or FS visa from another country?


Are you an idiot? Tell me, please. Wait, you are a defacto Korean but CANT READ KOREAN?! Whats up? The F5 is no big secret. You keep denying something everyone here knows about. Its like denying that the sky is above and insisting that its actually below. Its not going to change anything. And anyway, we just found out that Mr. Defacto Korean Citizen cant understand written Korean.


Rafal, you are the idiot, and you probably are dyslexic, which is why you have such a chip on your shoulder.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because Mr. Defacto Korean Citizen cant understand a lick of Korean here is a link to English information:

P.S. The best version is in .pdf format but then Mr. "Im a Korean but cant read the language" will say that it was convenient that he cant open up .pdf files. I know the text on the html version is small so I hope Mr. "I cant read Korean but Im really a Korean" will not say that its convenient that the text is so small. But here goes nothin

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:QekBDmf4gB0J:shc.seoul.go.kr/data/Doing/Chapter8.pdf+Korea+visas+F-5&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5

Use the search function in your browser and type in F-5. For Dude: that is under����(E) and then under (F)

and here is the .pdf file. Much easier to read shc.seoul.go.kr/data/Doing/Chapter8.pdf

Who is the idiot now? You have been destroyed in this thread.

It says:

Visas relating to foreign investors:C-2 (Temporary business), D-8(Investement), F-5 (Permanent Residence)

and a bit lower

An applicant should reside in Korea for more than 5 years with a F-2 (residence)visa.- Those who invested more than US$ 500,000 in Korean companies for more than 3years, those who have engaged in business activities while living in Korea formore than 5 years and thereby contributed to creating more jobs in Korea - Children of those who are eligible for an F-5 visa can also acquire one.F-5 visa holders do not have to extend their period of stay
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jaebea



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: SYD

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, this thread is awesome.

In the face of overwhelming facts, I have to grudgingly respect OCOKA dude's stubborn refusal to concede defeat. I'll pay that. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just leading people on just to get his kicks out of frustrating everyone else in the thread.

I just can't see how the existence of an F-5 visa affects him in ANY way. Maybe we're all just missing something in this picture.

j.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. He is actually funny. I have met a few like him in my time but not usually in Korea. He is one of those people who will argue something stupid until their dying day because their tiny minds cannot accept something different from what they want to believe.
It has nothing to do with him, but he would like things to remain the way they were. He seems to be a very racist person who actually hates whites even though they gave him they chance to live in their country. It's funny...he has enjoyed all the benefits of living in the West and yet seems to resent even a little freedom to be given to us in Korea.
I don't understand his thinking...a western country opened its arms to him and his family and allowed them work, study and live free. He and his family should be thankful..but they aren't...they are bitter and resentful.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
Nope. He is actually funny. I have met a few like him in my time but not usually in Korea. He is one of those people who will argue something stupid until their dying day because their tiny minds cannot accept something different from what they want to believe.
It has nothing to do with him, but he would like things to remain the way they were. He seems to be a very racist person who actually hates whites even though they gave him they chance to live in their country. It's funny...he has enjoyed all the benefits of living in the West and yet seems to resent even a little freedom to be given to us in Korea.
I don't understand his thinking...a western country opened its arms to him and his family and allowed them work, study and live free. He and his family should be thankful..but they aren't...they are bitter and resentful.


I understand. Before September/October last yar he was king. The F4 allowed him to do privates, multiple jobs, etc. Total freedom. The F2-1 was still not that great a visa. We needed permission, couldnt do other stuff. Then it all changed. F2-1s got the same rights as F4s, F5s with even more freedom and rights became available. And suddenly the King Kyopo got competition in Korea from the whitey with an F visa. Overnight it all changed. Overnight the F4 kyopo no longer ruled the part time job market. I can see his anger and the reasons for it. Tough cookies though.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe, yeah it is obvious that he is just yanking chains now. Either way, the posters on this board know him for what he is.

If he can't read links, that is his problem. If he still doesn't believe, again his problem.

He is the one who called me a burger flipper and I'm still waiting for him to prove that one. Wink
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
He seems to be a very racist person who actually hates whites even though they gave him they chance to live in their country. It's funny...he has enjoyed all the benefits of living in the West and yet seems to resent even a little freedom to be given to us in Korea.
I don't understand his thinking...a western country opened its arms to him and his family and allowed them work, study and live free. He and his family should be thankful..but they aren't...they are bitter and resentful.


Hmm. Very interesting that you think that "whites gave me a chance to live in their country." Since when is the U.S. a "white" country, and who gave me permission to live there? You better check the results of the 2000 U.S. Census dude to see who's currently become the fastest- growing minority group in the U.S., because I'm sorry to say, it wasn't you or anyone white for that matter.

Just so you know, I'm a native-born American citizen, which means that I did not benefit directly from anyone giving me any opportunity. Additionally, I served my country in the U.S. Army as an 11B grunt and in a Civil Affairs unit in the Reserves for eight years. What have you done for your country?

My parents, just like your forefathers -- unless you are a 100% pure-blooded Native American Indian (which I doubt) -- were ALSO immigrants to the North American continent. They (like your progenitors) earned the right to become full-fledged American citizens.

My parents, if you are curious, were able to get their Green Cards in the early 1960s when they first arrived, because they qualified under the FMG (Foreign Medical-school Graduate program), which required them to redo their internship & residency in the U.S., which they did, in exchange for a Green Card, even though they had already done theirs in Korea.

So neither my parents nor myself were recipients of any freebies, largesse, social welfare or any type of handouts from the U.S. Government, as you imply. Instead, we paid our dues, brought and developed professional skills in the US to become bona-fide citizens and dues-paying taxpayers through hard work, dedication and talent.

We have never applied for, nor received welfare benefits, and I served my country in the U.S. Army doing one of the hardest jobs in the military for eight years.

What have you done except bitch and moan and talk trash about non-whites? Why is it always white- trash skinheads that complain about the scarcity of jobs and the lack of opportunities, then blame non-whites for their own laziness and lack of ingenuity?

Btw, didn't you learn the song back in elementary school? "This Land is my Land, this Land is your Land..."

Incidentally, contrary to your accusations, I have no resentment toward living side-by-side with non-Koreans in Korea. As long as they are productive and contributing members of society that abide lawfully and peacefully, why should I have any resentment?

I simply asked you to explain your visa status -- which I was previously unaware of -- and you sufficiently did, so I see no reason why we can't all live in harmony now that I have been duly informed with verifiable information.

"Can we all get along now?" --Rodney King, April 1992
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: What's up Reply with quote

blackbear wrote:
Additionally, I served my country in the U.S. Army as an 11B grunt and in a Civil Affairs unit in the Reserves for eight years. What have you done for your country?


That was a personal choice, which does not make you a greater man. I think soldiers fight for others who can't fight for themselves. I have allot of respect for US Military Soldiers who have served. I don't have respect for US Military Soldiers who say, "What have you done for your country!" in the context you used. There are many ways you can help your country.


Who said I was a "greater man"? I simply said that I served my country. Yes, there are many ways to serve your country and I chose to serve in the way I did. Whether you did or didn't is irrelevant. "What have you done?", is meant to be purely rhetorical. Don't misunderstand.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this thread has definitely went in some different directions. OCOKA Dude, I think that was your way of acknowledging that you are now more informed about the F5 visa. I'm glad some of the links helped.

There's been a lot of name calling here, but could it now be taking a softer tone? Wink
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He still can't admit he was wrong about German citizenship.

Hey, arrogant beeyotch! I gave you your cites. You were wrong, now STFU.
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
He still can't admit he was wrong about German citizenship.

Hey, arrogant beeyotch! I gave you your cites. You were wrong, now STFU.


Du, Aschloch! Halts Maul. Ich werde nie!
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am finished with this thread. I will see you all in another more interesting thread. I think we should let this thread disappear.
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