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Building question: what the HELL are they doing?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earplugs are a great idea. I'm not bothered about the noise if I'm up and awake but if I'm woken up early I become psychotic. Emart don't have any earlugs and nor did a �� i went into.

any suggestions?

come on, guys, where can I get earplugs?

thanks.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my local CNA there are earplugs made by 3M on a kind of display with all the other stuff they make, like scotch tape and post-it-notes.
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capebretoncanadian



Joined: 20 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually never heard of officetels either in my year plus in Daegu....and by the sounds of the explanation....I live in one!! We call and have had the Koreans call them Billats. Is there a difference....?doesn't sound like it.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

capebretoncanadian wrote:
We call and have had the Koreans call them Billats. Is there a difference....?doesn't sound like it.


"Villas" are actually a little bigger than officetels I believe.. The purpose for most officetels for Koreans is to be a temporary residence for those who live very far from work... (re: don't have the time or energy to commute home to see their families every night).. of course they also provide cheap, low-maintenance housing for people moving out on their own for the first time (yes, it does happen before marriage for some Koreans) and of course, whitey refugees who teach English for a living...
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Officetel" is the best common example of Konglish you could hope for. There's an even better place near my office, called a "Hofficetel."
Hof+office+hotel
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krats1976



Joined: 14 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I'd heard the term office-tel before too, but never knew what it was. Aren't they also called goshiwans--or is that something different?
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krats1976 wrote:
Actually, I'd heard the term office-tel before too, but never knew what it was. Aren't they also called goshiwans--or is that something different?


I'm pretty sure goshiwans are just study rooms for students.. complete with a "no noise" policy....
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:

come on, guys, where can I get earplugs?


Try Kyobo bookstore or similar bookstores (Yoonpoong [spelling?] bookstore, etc.). Some bookstores around universities sell them too (because Korean universities aren't the quiet places that they should be.).
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krats1976



Joined: 14 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SarcasmKills wrote:
krats1976 wrote:
Actually, I'd heard the term office-tel before too, but never knew what it was. Aren't they also called goshiwans--or is that something different?


I'm pretty sure goshiwans are just study rooms for students.. complete with a "no noise" policy....


Ahh... OK.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wish they would build something near my place. a bar would be nice.
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Building question: what the HELL are they doing? Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
This pic is taken from my apartment window:



As you can see, a new officetel is about to be built.

It makes a bloody noise sometimes and gets on my nerves, but it's necessary and I try not to let it bother me too much unless it wakes me up at some silly hour.

What annoys me most is the fact that nothing is being built and all the noise is in vain. The scene in the pic has been the state of affairs for 2 months now and these guys, assuming they're building an officetel and not just digging and hitting things for some other purpose, have progressed about as far as an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping. I HATE things that don't make sense.

* people have told me that - due to the bally-bally mentality - the building will be done in no time. Ain't happening.

* look at the gentleman on the right above the metal things. He'd just finished hitting the metal things with a hammer. WHY? That's not gonna build you a nice officetel guys! The guys, all day long, seem to be welding these metal things too, scorching them all over and then moving them to another location. WHY? What's that intended to achieve? I'm genuinely curious - why are these builders walking around hitting, welding metal things all day when surely they should be putting one brick on top of another until they have a big, tall officetel?

WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE MORONS DOING?? Is it normal practise in Korea to spend months whacking things before building something?


They are driving piles... Worked in construction for 2.5 years. They use a diesel combustion hammer to sink around 30-40 feet of I beams into the ground. Its an effective way of cutting costs down by not pauring expensive concreate piles into the ground.. In Canada they mostly drive piles for bridges and structures that are movable like brides, overpasses and such.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Officetels are mixed-use buildings, as well. Many people live in them (I did for a year) and many others have only offices in them. (Thus the term). Some have both.

Villas are generally 3 or 4 story buildings with a business on the ground level and apartments above. Often the owner (and family) will live in one of them, or have a floor of the place.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My buddy keeps a goshiwan for 200,000 a month to get his groove on. He's got a roommate, so he feels it's better than bringing his finds home, and it does have a bed and limited so forth.

He couldn't swing a cat in the place, though.
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