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Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

South Korea possesses three lodges holding charters from the Grand Lodge of Scotland. The first of the Scottish lodges, Lodge Han Yang #1048, was established in 1908 by British, Canadian, and American miners, merchants and missionaries and meets at the Seoul Club in Seoul on the 2nd and 4th Wednesday of every month. The other two Scottish Lodges meet in Pusan and nearby Pyongtaek.

Han Yang Lodge is a cosmopolitan Lodge, made up of members from Korea, the UK, Australia, Canada, the United States, the Philippines and France. Regular visitors hail from Bulgaria, Hong Kong, Spain, Finland and other distant lands.

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Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

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The aim is to build a better world by building better men to work in their own communities.
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What is Freemasonry?
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Freemasonry is the world��s largest secular, fraternal and charitable organization. It teaches moral lessons and self-knowledge through participation in a progression of allegorical two-part plays.

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Brotherly Love – Every true Freemason will show tolerance and respect for the opinions of others and behave with kindness and understanding to his fellow creatures.
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Simply put, the overall purpose of Masonry is to provide a way to help each member become a better person. The fraternity places emphasis on the individual by:
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strengthening his character;
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An applicant must believe in a Supreme Being. Freemasonry does not provide any further definition, the nature of that Being must be determined by the applicant himself.
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The applicant must be an upright man of good moral character and be at least twenty one years old.
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He must not have a criminal record and must be a peaceable citizen, loyal to his country and its laws.
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He must be able to meet his financial commitments to his family before those to Freemasonry.
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The applicant must have a positive perception of the fraternity and act of his own free will; uninfluenced by friends or mercenary motives.
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How does one become a Freemason?
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Usually by asking a Freemason. It is a general rule, in Korea as well as in most other countries, that a Freemason will not solicit men for membership.
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Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

I don't think 2 Freemasonry threads are enough- could you please start a third one?

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

If you are really interested in learning more about Masonry here are some solid resources:

Title: Freemasons for
Dummies
Author: Christopher
Hodapp
Cost: $13.59US
ISBN: 0764597965
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: Freemasonry: A
Journey Through Ritual and Symbol
Author: W. Kirk MacNulty
Cost: $13.57US
ISBN: 0500810370
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: The Freemasons
Author: Jasper Ridley
Cost: $10.98US
ISBN: 1841192384
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: The Way of the
Craftsman
Author: W. Kirk MacNulty
Cost: 11.95 GBP
ISBN: 0954251601
Available from:
central.theitbridge.net

Title: The Art and
Architecture of Freemasonry
Author: James Stevens Curl
Cost: 19.99 GBP
ISBN: 1585671606
Available from:
central.theitbridge.net

Title: The Origins of Freemasonry: Scotland��s Century, 1590—1710
Author: David Stevenson
Cost: 10.19 GBP
ISBN: 0521396549

Available from: www.amazon.com
Title: Born In Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry
Author: John J. Robertson
Cost: $16.47 US
ISBN: 0871316021
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: Freemasonry for Wives
Author: Kent Henderson
Cost: $10.00 AUS
Available from: www.geocities.com/kentgmp

Title: The Origins of
Freemasonry
Author: Margaret C. Jacobs
Cost: $17.49 US
ISBN: 0812239016
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: Inside Freemasonry DVD
Author:
John Wesley Chisolm
Cost: $29.95 CAD
Available from: www.visiontv.ca

Title: Masonic Lifeline: Leadership
Author: Allen E. Roberts
Cost: $12.50 US
ISBN:
Available from: www.macoy.com

Title: The Craft and Its
Symbols
Author: Allen E. Roberts
Cost: $9.50 US
ISBN: 0880530588
Available from: www.macoy.com

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Solid resources?
So then you've read all of them?
I am assuming yes, because simply cutting and pasting a booklist of books you haven't read and then telling people they are "solid resources", is well, let's just call it "less than solid".

As responsible citizens it's important that we're informed.

If it's too graphick simply use tact & sensitivity.

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Title: The Freemasons:
The Illustrated Book of the Brotherhood
Author: Michael Johnstone
Cost: $ 13.99 US
ISBN: 0517226669
Available from: www.amazon.com

Title: The Brotherhood: Inside the Secret World of the Freemasons
Author: Tom Deopolus
Cost: $ 15.57 US
ISBN: 1560258292
Available from: www.amazon.com

THE SITE MOST OF YOU SHOULD READ

Anti-Masonry Points of View
www.masonicinfo.com

Grand Lodge of Scotland
http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/

Grand Lodge of England
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/

Pietre Stones Review of Freemasonry
www.freemasons-freemasonry.com

Grand Lodge of British Columbia
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/

A Page about Freemasonry
web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Masons

Freemasonry for Women and Other Female Orders
www.easternstar.org
womenfreemasonsusa.com
www.hfaf.org

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

So um, you've read everything on those sites you recommend?

Because well, recommending sites that you haven't-
you're going to keep on ignoring the point I'm making, aren't you...

May I compliment you on your wicked mad ctrl-c and ctrl-v skillz?

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Hello,

Yep, read most of them except for a couple of the newest ones that are sitting on my book shelf waiting for me to finish exams and papers...... Accounting, law, systems thinking and politics and planning are what monopolize my time. Lodge is on the back burner but always on my mind.

The Grand Lodge of Manitoba also has some great papers on it. Some of the Australian Grand Lodges also have some good resources posted online.

Something of note. Pike is only really known in the south of the US though I suppose the internet makes his writings a bit more visible. The Scottish rite though isn't as popular outside North America. The Royal Arch or York rite is much more common for those who decide to do side degrees. The majority of Masons do only the 3 degrees though and all of these side bodies answer the the Grand Lodges that control their jurisdiction. The Grand Lodge can shut them down if they think they are out of line.

There is no Grand Lodge for the world. It is more like Universities in various jurisdictions. They may teach similar curiculum but it is not exactly the same and those that do no follow the basic principles are "irregular" and not recognized.

Ok. Need to do some work for class tomorrow.

Regards

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Not ignoring you man. Just finishing the posts that I thought you (and others) might be interested in.

I wouldn't recommend resources I hadn't perused myself. I would rely on whats there much more than on the other sites that have been quoted. Enjoy reading the material. I've read a lot of junk and a lot of good stuff and I like to think I have a fairly critical eye for good material about Masonry.

Reading the good and the bad is useful though to get a critical perspective. The Masonic info site is a good response to a lot of the crap about Masonry.

Like the application says..... Masonry isn't for everyone and not everyone is for Masonry.

Regards

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

I'm curious- how would "there is no Grand Lodge for the World"
fit into somebody like Igotthisguitar's belief that the Freemasons are satanists who control the world? Or trying to?

(If you've split from the Igothisguitar's Freemason thread to distance yourself from his quackery, then I'll back off with a 'more power to you'.)

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Thought this might of interest. It is one Brother's perspective on Masonry. Teh source page is at the bottom:

In efforts to arrest the decline in number, many jurisdictions in North America have sought to make Masons faster and to make it easier for them to join by reducing the requirements for membership. Unfortunately, in order to appeal to the greatest amount of people possible things must generally be reduced to the lowest common denominator. It must be considered, however, that Freemasonry, is designed to appeal to what might be called the highest common denominator, that is, good men seeking to improve themselves. Selling ourselves cheap is a sad sign of a desperate organization. If an organization is vibrant and has a strong sense of purpose it will attract good men naturally. Based on the facts, we know this to be the case in most Continental European and South American countries, where Freemasonry does not advertise itself to the public yet its membership continues to grow or remains stable.

This is one of the Masonic traditions that must be considered – Masonry works best when lodges are smaller. Granted, for smaller lodges to be viable economically, they must adopt higher dues, but if quality is to be had, it must be paid for and men should not be afraid to show that the fraternity is important to them.

Unfortunately, North American Freemasonry has taken a different route for most of the twentieth-century. When it swung its doors wide open the organization quickly swelled, but it was filled with men that had not taken the time to learn about the real purpose of Freemasonry, Nor could they have as there was no way the lodges could have so quickly incorporated so many men into the Masonic culture. This is one of the keys to understanding our dilemma – the number of men that any given lodge can effectively initiate and educate is naturally limited.

Initiation is a slow and sensitive process and requires great effort on behalf of both the candidate and the existing members of the lodge. For initiation and Masonic growth to be meaningful and enriching, great care and attention must be afforded to each individual candidate. He must understand that the organization is highly selective, allowing him to feel self-worth and leading him to respect the high standards of the Order. Great time must be spent to educate him about the history, symbolism and philosophy of the Craft if he is to become a Freemason worthy of the title.

Therefore, another tradition that we seem to have lost, that should be emphasized, is the thorough investigation of candidates and meaningful prepatory period. Indeed, this is a demanding tradition that limits the number of candidates that any given lodge can initiate successfully. Doing otherwise, that is, filling up the fraternity with members who have not been properly educated about the purpose and history of the Craft seems only to have led to the deterioration of Masonic traditions and values.

This, along with the rise of popular culture and high-technology, left Freemasonry in North America unprepared to respond appropriately to the social changes that were quickly coming upon the institution. No could there have been a proper response as much of the leadership, poorly verse in Masonic history and the initiatic tradition, could not understand what it was that it should be endeavoring to preserve. Even now, much of what is introduced with the best of intentions seems too often to result in further deterioration. The monitors warn us against innovations with good reason.

The fact tell us that we are going to become a much smaller organization over the next decade. But rather than accepting this inevitable fact an making preparations for Masonry to succeed with a smaller membership, it seems that we are too eager to adopt anything that could possibly delay the inevitable, that is, anything that has the potential to bring in members in large numbers. In a sense, this is a kind of denial, and unless it is shaken off soon it is likely to leave North American Masonry unprepared once more for the challenge of the future. But if the right preparatory steps are taken, as Masonry becomes a much smaller organization, it can also become a much stronger organization.

One important thing to understand is that simply adopting one traditional practice here and another there is not going to turn the whole organization around. What is necessary is an all encompassing approach to the way our lodge can be improved. We know that European Masonry has been very successful in working as small lodges. And we know, whether we like it or not, that our own lodge are also going to become relatively small in the near future.

While it is true that we can consolidate lodges as a means of keeping the dues low, this approach is only going to work for a limited time and does not address the more fundamental problem of having lost our focus and traditions. If we want Masonic traditions to continue to have an impact on the lives of Masons, we need to focus on quality and working out viable models for smaller lodges.

We need higher dues and dress codes as a means of returning dignity to the institution. We need festive boards and more engaging Masonic programs in order to provide higher quality fellowship. And we need more thorough investigations and more meaningful preparatory periods for candidates if we are to rediscover our original purpose, uniting good men in the pursuit of virtue. We cannot afford to forget that the initiatic tradition is what defines us as Masons.

Keeping these things in mind, Masonry will doubtless overcome its future challenges and survive for many years to come. But the North American Masonic experience of the last century must teach us that Masonry cannot go wholesale – that the number of men entering the fraternity must be limited to how many men can effectively be initiated and educated. We must learn and understand that Freemasonry, if it is to be true to its design, does not lower its standards but demands that individuals raise theirs.

Clipped from Masonic Traditions for the Twenty-First Century by W. Bro. Dennis V. Chornenky President of the Masonic Restoration Foundation at

www.masonicrestoration.com
www.lodgebuilder.org

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

I see now.
This thread is entirely a cut n paste exercise- no interaction needed or wanted.
Have fun with that.

Maybe Mills can swing by and leave a page of Freemason quotes for you.

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

I'd tell you but then my Master would punish me........ Wink

Whatever story turns you on. If only we ruled the world. Then I'd have an intership for the summer...

Anyway the flakes and fundementalists will run with any crazy story. I think the material speaks for itself. No matter what I say they will believe what they want.

Are there bad Freemasons. Of course. there are bad people everywhere. The philosophy is not though and the majority of its members are solid people working to improve themselves to be better people. Brotherly love (fraternity), relief (charity in the broadest sense) and truth are the guiding principles. How many places can you get a group of people working on their commonalities rather than fighting about their differences?

The Lodge I belong to in Korea has a Taoist, Catholics, Protestants, Christians and I have visiting Lodges where Muslims and Hindu's were members. The point is that we are all family. If you buy into that idea and self improvement then masonry is for you. If not find another group to join. If your not a joiner no worries we only take people who are ask and come of their "own free will and accord" (thats from the ritual).

Cheers

Hanyang · Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada

Hope you read the responses they are in there and not just the last post which is a good article from one Mason's perspective.

Have you read anything worthwhile? Have you any thoughts? Do you have any real questions about Masonry?

Twisted Evil

Time to run and work on my plans to take over the world.....

Idea

Hope the material (application form, questions and answers and recommended readings) serve a few of you well. All of it is material I have read (except a few books that are new that I haven't had time for yet).

If you want the history of Masonry in Korea I'd be happy to post it too.

Best regards from Toronto ---