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Free2be
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: Midnight Express Calling! |
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| I have the urge and wish to take a midnight train ride outta dodge and I am wondering when I go to the airport, since i am on a multi entry visa, should I even bother to give up my residence card? If I don't what would happen? I mean I will be back safe at home and what could they do? Also, when I go through immigration, I should just tell them I am going home for an emergency or what? I just want to be safe on the plane before my school notices I am gone. Any suggestions?? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like a plan. I'd just do it on a weekend. If you have the multiple re-entry stamp you should have trouble at all saying you're just going home to visit. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Free2be,
You could do what you plan with no problems to yourself.
However, can I ask why not just be a professional about it and give proper notice?
By running you will save yourself something but leave your coworkers (both Korean and western) holding your bag of crap when your classes need to be covered.
You might also make your former employer deal more harshly with other westerners on staff as you will have shafted him or her.
I don't know what your situation is but the M. run is a bit immature. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Free2be,
You could do what you plan with no problems to yourself.
However, can I ask why not just be a professional about it and give proper notice?
By running you will save yourself something but leave your coworkers (both Korean and western) holding your bag of crap when your classes need to be covered.
You might also make your former employer deal more harshly with other westerners on staff as you will have shafted him or her.
I don't know what your situation is but the M. run is a bit immature. |
Screw that shit.. Man if the haqwon blows I say go for it.. I don't feel sorry for any Korean teachers since all my suck. The director sucks but they pay on time and stay out of my face on the most part. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Screw that *beep*.. Man if the haqwon blows I say go for it.. I don't feel sorry for any Korean teachers since all my suck. The director sucks but they pay on time and stay out of my face on the most part.
A true professional at work...  |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Screw that *beep*.. Man if the haqwon blows I say go for it.. I don't feel sorry for any Korean teachers since all my suck. The director sucks but they pay on time and stay out of my face on the most part.
A true professional at work... |
Since when is Teaching at a haqwon considered profesional.  |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| Wrench wrote: |
| Homer wrote: |
Screw that *beep*.. Man if the haqwon blows I say go for it.. I don't feel sorry for any Korean teachers since all my suck. The director sucks but they pay on time and stay out of my face on the most part.
A true professional at work... |
Since when is Teaching at a haqwon considered profesional. |
that's a stupid thing to say.
basket weaving is a profession, if you take it seriously.
as far as we're concerned, the OP could be running for reasons as cildish as those in your post. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Since when is Teaching at a haqwon considered profesional
Keep going! You are making my point for me.
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Please note: the following is written to a "generic" you, not to any one individual in particular. If you flame, we'll know the shoe fit.
Your teaching is professional if you make it so. It's up to you. Even at the worst hogwan, what you do in your class is mostly up to you. So, if you're teaching at a school or a hogwan and you're NOT being professional, then go. Leave Korea. Midnight run or no, just go. And please don't come back.
"dontgo" just go! |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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However, can I ask why not just be a professional about it and give proper notice?
By running you will save yourself something but leave your coworkers (both Korean and western) holding your bag of crap when your classes need to be covered.
You might also make your former employer deal more harshly with other westerners on staff as you will have shafted him or her.
I don't know what your situation is but the M. run is a bit immature. |
Being professional requires reciprocation.....if the school isnt being upfront and honest(an assumption) then you dont need to be held accountable either. I know of several teachers who gave proper notice and got screwed royally on their final pay!
Its too bad that the kids are the ones caught in the middle, but again it is up to the school to have contingency plans in effect to cover this scenario. Of course its too bad that Koreans dont like to plan more than 5 minutes ahead 
If things are so bad you feel you must leave, drop your ARC card off at the airport...nobody will/can prevent you from leaving(unless you are being sought after for criminal offenses).
Any particular reason for wanting to get the heck out of dodge?
Its kind of interesting how the moral minority comes down on someone...you know...judging them without knowing the facts of the matter. |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I second the need for reasons...honesty and responsibility is a two-way street. If you are being screwed, that is one thing. But if not, your running just hurts those who stay. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Grotto wrote: |
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However, can I ask why not just be a professional about it and give proper notice?
By running you will save yourself something but leave your coworkers (both Korean and western) holding your bag of crap when your classes need to be covered.
You might also make your former employer deal more harshly with other westerners on staff as you will have shafted him or her.
I don't know what your situation is but the M. run is a bit immature. |
Being professional requires reciprocation.....if the school isnt being upfront and honest(an assumption) then you dont need to be held accountable either. I know of several teachers who gave proper notice and got screwed royally on their final pay!
Its too bad that the kids are the ones caught in the middle, but again it is up to the school to have contingency plans in effect to cover this scenario. Of course its too bad that Koreans dont like to plan more than 5 minutes ahead
If things are so bad you feel you must leave, drop your ARC card off at the airport...nobody will/can prevent you from leaving(unless you are being sought after for criminal offenses).
Any particular reason for wanting to get the heck out of dodge?
Its kind of interesting how the moral minority comes down on someone...you know...judging them without knowing the facts of the matter. |
Once again Grotto hits the nail directly on the head. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Grotto...if the teacher has no other outs then running is a viable option.
However, it should always be a last resort and not be the first resort as it often ends up being.
For every teacher that ran because he was cheated by his boss, there is probably one who ran because he was an immature little kid who did not want to live up to his responsability.
As for profesionalism being reciprocal...I disagree.
Being profesional is about having pride in what you do not about waiting for some reciprocated sentiment. |
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canuck in Ansan
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Free2be, how long have you been here? Why the midnight run?
Give us some more details, you've got us making assumptions left and right!
You asked for suggestion but gave us next to nothing to work with, besides the fact that you have an "urge"..... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Grotto...if the teacher has no other outs then running is a viable option.
However, it should always be a last resort and not be the first resort as it often ends up being.
For every teacher that ran because he was cheated by his boss, there is probably one who ran because he was an immature little kid who did not want to live up to his responsability.
As for profesionalism being reciprocal...I disagree.
Being profesional is about having pride in what you do not about waiting for some reciprocated sentiment. |
I'm sure you're right in your suspicion that for every teacher who had a right to run there was one who didn't. Nevertheless, professionalism is a two-way street. There are many hogwans where teaching professionally is simply not possible, and such places do not deserve to have real teachers. If the OP is at one, I would suggest he (a) pull a runner and (b) send the director an email cc'ed to everyone who works there explaining in detail exactly why he left. Make him lose maximum face - that's what some of the con-men who run these places really need. |
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