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some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

This may be a shock to you, but the world IS ending for a lot of people who have to fight in Iraq and the many other people whose lives were destroyed by the policies of the Bush gang.

We're still here. So who is "we"?

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

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laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

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some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

I understand your point and I partly agree. In the big picture, this may be small potatoes.

But I have to say that I am sick and tired of people defending the present administration saying, "what could they have done?" or "they had no way of knowing". When all the facts show the exact opposite.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

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some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

Maybe we could all get a grip if there weren't so many issues with this administration.

From day one there has been nothing but suspicious occurences.

It seems like everything this administration, touches, says or does has some kind of controversy about it.

From 2 "not so honest elections" on down.

Why shouldn't people be mad as hell at a guy who never should have been in office in the first place?

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Nevermind.

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

EFLtrainer · Joined: 04 May 2005

[quote="Gopher In such a system, people like EFL Trainer take presidents they don't like into custody, imprison or exile them, and impose their own system until someone stronger displaces them, and on and on and on until you get Panama, Colombia, or Peru.

The fact that many here have no tolerance for people they disagree with (i.e., Republican politicians) does not surprise me in the least.
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This is idiocy, as pointed out by another poster in this thread.

EFLtrainer · Joined: 04 May 2005

EFLtrainer · Joined: 04 May 2005

EFLtrainer · Joined: 04 May 2005

As has been pointed out by others posting in this thread, virtually everything you can name that this administration has done is questionable. To NOT be in a froth over it is the irresponsible position. Cool in the face of disaster is one thing; making excuses for the current administration and blaming those who see a sinister and serious threat to the nation and the world FROM this administration is bizarre. How can it possibly hurt to loudly, even belligerently, bring attention to the harm the twit in the White House has done?

Let's back up to the Truman issue. If you do not understand the President is absolutely responsible for the performance of his administration, there is no amount of explaining that will help you understand.

As a teacher, if my students are not behaving, I have to look to myself first. Are there factors beyond my control? Yes. Is *everything* beyond my control? No. And if it *is* beyond my control, is it because of my choices or those things beyond my control? If the latter, do I not then have the responsibility to find the resources and make the changes to bring it under control?

When Bush said everything was ready and in place, he was speaking foolishly. You simply cannot be fully prepared for something like that. You can prepare to the best of your ability, and as part of that prep try to be ready for the unexpected. But that is not what happened with Katrina. Bush was full of crap, as ever. He glossed over the reality and went on vacation. How the HELL does a president go on vacation when "the Big One", as stated by HIS director of FEMA put it directly to Bush himself, is bearing down on the coast? This is all you need to know about Bush. To call people who are angry as hell, as disgusted as they can possibly, and worried as much as is possible about what he is doing to the nation and the world "extremists" is absurd. The extreme position is to be doing what YOU do, gopher, and that is NOTHING.

The position you hold is indefensible and untenable. The little bubble you live in is going to pop. And in this one particular case, I am glad in the knowledge that the little fantasy you live in is going to crash down around you before your time comes, seeing as you are young enough for that to be the case. You ahve the arrogance borne of an Ivory Tower existence. Though, based upon your reasoning, it's a short tower.

You stated before that the world has always been falling. There is truth in that, but it cuts both ways. All the great empires have indeed fallen and in their wake has typically been a period of misery and terror. The Dark Ages were a good thing? Or never happened? Which? Korea's Chosun Dynasty (not a great dynasty, but a very successful one) was followed by subjugation. The fall of the British Empire has ushered in misery in many of the former satellites. Same with Russia. Alexander's Greece? Followed by division and war. Etc., etc.

Difficult eras DO happen. To imply that human progress is steady is simply an uneducated observation. It is not. We have, collectively, had a period of about 500 years of overall progress. That's about as long as one can reasonably expect, in terms of expecatations based on statitics, the upturn to last.

Read "The Rise and Fall of the Great Nations" and get back to me. BTW, how much of SD is going to be under water in 2050 or 2100??