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Homer
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| There also seems to be alot less of a slavery style( |
Oh the slavery thing again... 
I think the main argument here is that of more and more markets demanding teachers. This makes competion for teachers fiercer and may leave Korea (along with a few other spots) short of teachers.
On the positive side, this might mean another raise in the basic pay to attract more teachers.
Some have already raised their basic pay (ex: EPIK did this year).
Time will tell.
China does have a stronger cultural pull as it is a bigger player. It can offer interesting conditions now and I agree that as soon as wages reach comparable levels...this will hit the ESL industry here in some way.
It will also hit Japan pretty hard as the wages have not moved much there either along with the fact that cost of living is pretty high. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| There also seems to be alot less of a slavery style( |
Oh the slavery thing again...
I think the main argument here is that of more and more markets demanding teachers. This makes competion for teachers fiercer and may leave Korea (along with a few other spots) short of teachers.
On the positive side, this might mean another raise in the basic pay to attract more teachers.
Some have already raised their basic pay (ex: EPIK did this year).
Time will tell.
China does have a stronger cultural pull as it is a bigger player. It can offer interesting conditions now and I agree that as soon as wages reach comparable levels...this will hit the ESL industry here in some way.
It will also hit Japan pretty hard as the wages have not moved much there either along with the fact that cost of living is pretty high. |
Actually, Japan's wages are even starting to go down. Not on a large scale, but there are some places trying to offer 220000 yen. Or start at 220000 and have a 30000 yen Full attendance bonus. Plus rents are starting to go up (I know they did with AEON). I think Japan has more to worry about than Korea for losing teachers. I like the culture a bit more, and having a 3 year visa which is owned by YOU and not your employer is nice, but Korea still offers more in benefits.
If I had a choice of all 3 (I have lived in all 3) I would say China, but not by much, just because it is more chaotic. Korea and Japan aren't really that hard to live in compared to back home. China always seemed to surprise me atleast once a week  |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Well, let's put it this way.
My school hired a teacher to replace a teacher that left. He left because they cut the contract vacation down to the Kyunngi 2 week thing, and wouldn't verbally guarantee the under-the-table vacation this next year.
They ended up not finding anyone for the vanilla contract, and ended up signing a new guy with a contract stating 2 months of vacation. They went through 3 teachers who backed out in about a week, for various reasons, and ended up having to "give in" on their toughening vacation policies in order to hire someone they considered suitable.
So, apparently, the Kyunngi required max 2 week/year vacation thing was a lie, or things have changed due to necessity. At least at my school.
This is the story of a battle won for the teachers, but a teacher had to leave and create a frenzy to win it. |
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