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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Academy sending me to public school Reply with quote

My academy is sending me to an elementary school next month. I"ll work part time there (1-3)and part time at the academy (4-7). This sounds so strange. I dont have specifics yet like who is going to pay me or who will control my E-2 visa. Has anyone encountered this yet? Maybe the term "farmed out" applies here. Shocked
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, farmed out applies, but as long as the commute isn't bad and you get permission from immigration, don't worry about it. Your contract is with the academy, so they'll still control your visa, but you need to get a signature from immigration on the back of your ARC so that you can legally work elsewhere.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...be SURE to get the permission from immigration. Your boss can take it and do it him/herself (you don't need to make the trip, just give him/her your ARC and passport). If s/he WON'T do it legally, DON'T DO IT!!!!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I third the advice given by the ladies. Just get your boss to follow the regulations about working at multiple locations.
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are pretty sweet hours by the way, 1-7. If you get it all legalized, it could be pretty sweet.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Academy sending me to public school Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
My academy is sending me to an elementary school next month. I"ll work part time there (1-3)and part time at the academy (4-7). This sounds so strange. I dont have specifics yet like who is going to pay me or who will control my E-2 visa. Has anyone encountered this yet? Maybe the term "farmed out" applies here. Shocked


I did that my first year here, when I didn't know any better. If you plan to stay in Korea longer, it's good to have public school exp., farmed out or not.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be necessary to undergo a medical examination.

Also, a contract to which your director is not party to and written only in Korean, will have to be signed. The income will be directly credited to your bank account and form part of your salary.

It's quite good experience to be farmed out to an elementary school. You'll gain an insight into teaching at public schools and acquire first-hand information as to whether you'd ever want to teach at one.
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Hired Out? Reply with quote

Hiring out teachers to public schools or company sites is such an indignity
to the teaching profession. Hagwon owners make a killing in revenue as
the foreign teachers earn a pittance of an hourly wage. Indeed, make sure
your boss obeys immigration law before you actually go to a public school.
A young lady I knew in Hanam was hired out by her ECC boss to an elementary
school. She was nabbed and had to pay a 1 million won fine. The scum bag she
was working for wouldn't even pay it for her. Of course, right after pay day,
she did the midnight run back to Canada. Cool
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
(1) It will be necessary to undergo a medical examination.

Also, a contract to which your director is not party to and (2) written only in Korean, will have to be signed. The income will be directly credited to your bank account and form part of your salary.

(3) It's quite good experience to be farmed out to an elementary school. You'll gain an insight into teaching at public schools and acquire first-hand information as to whether you'd ever want to teach at one.


numbers are mine

1. True

2. Not always true, most are written in English as well. The OP should try and get an English copy

3. True.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they(your hakwon) going to be paying you any extra, or is this just considered half of your regular (six) contractual hours? If there's any kind of commuting cost, make sure you get that money up front(at least on a weekly basis).
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check your contract, he's probably violating the terms. You could tell him that you aren't interested in being farmed out to another school or hold out for more money.

You didn't sign a contract to teach at two locations. Teaching at a public school is more difficult because you could have 30 to 35 students in your class. No picnic. Public school teachers get paid for less teaching hours because of the class sizes. Your two hours there is more like 3 or more hours at a hagwon.

Traveling to the public school is also a mental stress. I, for one, can't stand changing classrooms let alone having to drive somewhere else.

I'd say that it's worth an extra 20,000 Won/day. I'd hold out for that if I were you. It's only 10,000 more per class so it's not like your asking for the world. Maybe he'll negotiate with you and knock it down. Still, even if you're getting only 10,000 Won more a day, it's an extra 200,000/month.

He won't like it, but you didn't sign on to be a yo-yo.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you only be teaching 3 hours a day at the academy? Sounds like they're stuggling.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is everyone sure about the medical check-up thing? I've been working for a public high school for 6 months now, and just added a middle school (part-time) on Friday.

So far, no one anywhere has said BOO about getting a physical.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey OP, I think it'll be only one day a week. You sound a little hazy on the details so that's quite probable.

In which case, don't put up a fuss and just go with it.

If it's Mon-Fri, however, demand half of the income over and above yr regular salary. Plus, it's vital that a K coteacher be assigned and that she not peter away, once you've got a handle on things.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl's got a point about class size. Sometimes it can be 40 students. The other thing is that unlike an academy, the levels can vary significantly. Also, what is your material? Look into these two areas.
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