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Lending money to other foreigners in Korea. A rant.
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Lending money to other foreigners in Korea. A rant. Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:

JongnoGuru:

That was a boring, inpertinent story. No one cares about what a pimp you were at the card table. But I'm glad it doesn't take much to make you feel like a god: just a couple hundred thou (out of someone else's pocket) and blind luck. Next time just don't bore us with the story.


Sister, JongnoGuru is making a joke about a part of philipjames' story. I thought it was very good. If you have ever played cards, or blackjack, at a casino, you know that this can never happen. It was a good joke, just a joke.

philipjames wrote:
But when I lend money to people who I see on a regular basis, they simply disappear. Weeks will pass before I see them again. Often they start drinking at other bars. At other times, people who owe me money don't even acknowledge that they owe me money, even though they're eating expensive meals and drinking imported beers. Every time I've lent money in Korea, after a few weeks or a month I've had to hunt them down - even though they had promised to repay it in a day or two. I just don't get the nerve of some people.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Lending money to other foreigners in Korea. A rant. Reply with quote

Xerxes wrote:
shortskirt_longjacket wrote:

JongnoGuru:

That was a boring, inpertinent story. No one cares about what a pimp you were at the card table. But I'm glad it doesn't take much to make you feel like a god: just a couple hundred thou (out of someone else's pocket) and blind luck. Next time just don't bore us with the story.


Sister, JongnoGuru is making a joke about a part of philipjames' story. I thought it was very good. If you have ever played cards, or blackjack, at a casino, you know that this can never happen. It was a good joke, just a joke.

philipjames wrote:
But when I lend money to people who I see on a regular basis, they simply disappear. Weeks will pass before I see them again. Often they start drinking at other bars. At other times, people who owe me money don't even acknowledge that they owe me money, even though they're eating expensive meals and drinking imported beers. Every time I've lent money in Korea, after a few weeks or a month I've had to hunt them down - even though they had promised to repay it in a day or two. I just don't get the nerve of some people.

Ummm, no. Embarassed But I do thank you for the bail-out attempt there, Xerxes. I really wasn't playing off the OP when I posted that. It was neither a joke nor was it fictional. (It was an unforgettable, excellent, silly experience.) And as SS_LJsays, it was probably boring and undoubtledly inpertinent. (impertinent, even) But then, why oh why should that post be any different from any of my others? It was simply a case of one incident-- a personal loan-- jogging the memory banks and another (unrelated and off-topic) incident spilling out along with it. Clearly, I don't take this board as deadly serious as I might.


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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DP...
That's means double post you sick dog.


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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see...
Half used bottles of condiments - Sold on Dave's.
Stack of old magazines - Sold on Dave's.
Bags - packed... I'll just throw away that old ironing board.
Passport - check.
Ferry ticket to Japan - check.
Okay... good, one last thing.
Hey roomie can I borrow a few million W?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mills wrote:
DP...
That's means double post you sick dog.


What does air tight mean?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
If you're making 2+ million won and living rent free in Korea, and you need to BORROW money, you're not worth lending money to.

No exceptions?


Well, if you're a single male ESL teacher living rent free, then no exceptions Smile
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's very little excuse for most people to be consistenly broke, but I can think of a few reasons why someone would be in the short term.
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Jaygee



Joined: 03 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
If you want to give magazines away, fine. If you want to sell them, that's your business as well. No one has to buy them from you.

It's funny to me that people think selling magazines is cheap. Do you also think picking up pennies on the street is "cheap"? What about someone who walks a quarter-mile farther to a store that sells bottled water for 100 won less per liter?

Again, no one twists anyone's arm to buy magazines. If I have a big stack of magazines and I'm selling it for 5,000 won, I'm not being cheap. I'm recognizing that the stack of magazines has value to someone else. If someone thinks I'm being cheap and doesn't think it's worth 5,000 won, then they can go on their merry way. I personally wouldn't have a problem forking out 5,000 won for a stack of magazines from home. Sure, someone could give them away. But someone could also just randomly give away 30,000 won to strangers and then be pissed when they don't return the "favor".

You're all so judgmental. Let people do what they want to do. If you don't like it, just don't buy the goddamn magazines.



Cheap
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:

Corporal:

Selling magazines isn't low or pathetic or whatever you said it was. .


I said it was cheap. Nice job of extrapolation though. Rolling Eyes BTW some of us have relatives who grew up under the Nazi regime where a single orange was an unheard-of treat for an entire family. Such deprivation tends to make a person, in later life, walk an extra mile to save 50 cents, or reuse/recycle paper towels. Is that understandable? Sure. It's still cheap.
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's the principle, the ethos, the whole attitude thing.


In this world, most people's ethics revolve wholly around themselves.

What are you to do? Do what I do.

Never trust a soul.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

philipjames wrote:
Boy, some of you folks are real cold hearted. I fully believe in kindness to strangers. As Jesus said. every criminals are kind to their own friends. Being kind to strangers is a measure of a person's decency. People fall on hard times for a thousand different reasons. To say 'too bad, so sad' is ice cold.

Random acts of kindness, baby. Random acts of kindness.

What thoroughly pisses me off is being exploited. Being screwed over deters people from helping those who are genuinely in need.

Looking only after yourself makes for a shallow, immoral life.

Selfishness sucks!


Jesus also said if a man asks for your shirt, give him that and your coat, too. Note the key word "give".

I suppose loaning someone 30k won for a ticket home could be considered an act of kindness, but if you're trying to live by the principles taught by Jesus, you would've been better off giving the guy 50k won and not expecting reimbursement. The hounding you've been doing since then, over a measly 30k won kills any kindness your "random" act may have contained. It doesn't matter that he deceived you, or is avoiding you. You can only control yourself.

Next time, just give a bloke some money. Sorry, but no sympathy here.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonny: Is he a good friend of yours?

Calogero: No, I don't even like him.



Sonny: There's your answer right there.

It costs you twenty dollars to get rid of him.

He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again.

He's out of your life for twenty dollars. You got off cheap.
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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:

Jesus also said if a man asks for your shirt, give him that and your coat, too. Note the key word "give".

Chapter/Verse? I don't seem to remember that one, "give him that and your coat, too."
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mills wrote:
Qinella wrote:

Jesus also said if a man asks for your shirt, give him that and your coat, too. Note the key word "give".

Chapter/Verse? I don't seem to remember that one, "give him that and your coat, too."

Yeah, me too. I'm pretty sure it was "leather sport jacket".
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
Sonny: Is he a good friend of yours?

Calogero: No, I don't even like him.



Sonny: There's your answer right there.

It costs you twenty dollars to get rid of him.

He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again.

He's out of your life for twenty dollars. You got off cheap.


Sweet.
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