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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
What's the f-5 process? (I'm paranoid, I guess, cuz she claims she loves me.) Maybe it's complex and/or dependent on the particular circumstances, but its always good to know where one stands.
Example, would it help if I became a Chinese woman?
(Seriously, would it?) |
Didnt bother them that Im a Canadian male and I got it. The process? Cal them up, see what stuff they want and take it down, fill out a form and wait. There may or may not be an interview. I didnt have one. You will also need to show that you have some money or prperty...about 30 million won of either. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
| Immigration consultant? This is Korea not America. I would seriously doubt there is even one immigration consultant that deals with immigration to Korea. |
Congrats on winning dumbass comment of the day.
Over 40,000 business execs come in on D-8 and E-7 visas every year, both have pain-in-the-ass hoops to jump through that HR managers loathe having to go through, so they outsource to immigration consultants. My immigration consultant for D-8 at my first company was brilliant. Really knew how to navigate the BS and red-tape. The company was so impressed with how smoothly it went that when a year was up and I had to renew, they decided that they'll be confident and handle it themselves, which ended up in such a massive and protracted cluster f*ck with immigration that they had to incur the cost of a visa run to get me out of the country and back again, before the visa expired.
I know that this is a teaching forum and most people only know details surrounding E2 , F2, and F4, but please don't get into the business of talking about stuff that you don't know anything about. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| The process is a joke. What are you talking about? You have given stupid advice all over this board. What help is it that you tell them to get an immigration consultant to solve their problem with a visa. You must learn to think... |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Because the OP is talking about securing a non-teaching visa. His personal situation could fall under an E-7 or D-8 visa governance. Companies often choose to outsource visa processes to immigration consultants for business visas, like this.
Look, I know you're pissed and blowing off steam, because I made you look like an idiot for trying to feign knowledge on a subject that you don't know anything about, but if it pains you to be corrected in front of anonymous viewers, then suck it up and go walk it off. For over 3 years, I've made it a personal crusade of mine to out and ridicule those on here who try to pass off BS advice on stuff they don't know anything about, and I'm not about to give you a blind eye. If you ever say stupid stuff on here, particularly off-the-cuff job advice that is false, you can expect the same treatment as I gave you in this thread. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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You giving him that advice would just waste his time. Call an "Immigration Consultant"...do you know what that means? He is not immigrating to Korea and if he finds an immigration consultant they won't know about Korea because they deal with people moving to other countries. You said something stupid and don't want to admit it..I understand but still you gave bad advice. The companies that help these types of visas are not "Immigration Consultants".
To be honest, most companies don't require these services because they have a legally recognized business in Korea. The process to apply for a D8 visa is easy, but the compnay has to meet the requirements. There are companies that can do the leg work to arrange these visas but they are not "Immigration Consultants". You were wrong. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
You giving him that advice would just waste his time. Call an "Immigration Consultant"...do you know what that means? He is not immigrating to Korea and if he finds an immigration consultant they won't know about Korea because they deal with people moving to other countries. You said something stupid and don't want to admit it..I understand but still you gave bad advice. The companies that help these types of visas are not "Immigration Consultants".
To be honest, most companies don't require these services because they have a legally recognized business in Korea. The process to apply for a D8 visa is easy, but the compnay has to meet the requirements. There are companies that can do the leg work to arrange these visas but they are not "Immigration Consultants". You were wrong. |
Bellum, did you emigrate to Korea? No? Oh wait...did you have to go through Immigration to get your E2 when you first came? Were you emigrating then? How about the average E2 that comes over for a year and has to get a visa through immigration? Dude. What CP is sayiong is that the consultant would be someone skilled in navigating immigration red tape to arrange a visa like the D8 or E4 or E7. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
You giving him that advice would just waste his time. Call an "Immigration Consultant"...do you know what that means? He is not immigrating to Korea and if he finds an immigration consultant they won't know about Korea because they deal with people moving to other countries. You said something stupid and don't want to admit it..I understand but still you gave bad advice. The companies that help these types of visas are not "Immigration Consultants".
To be honest, most companies don't require these services because they have a legally recognized business in Korea. The process to apply for a D8 visa is easy, but the compnay has to meet the requirements. There are companies that can do the leg work to arrange these visas but they are not "Immigration Consultants". You were wrong. |
Ok, if you want to try to save some face by reducing the debate down to semantics, then sure, I'll let you retain some cyber pride by admitting that I don't know what the actual Korean name is for these services, but HR referred to them as being immigration consultants, at my last place. And the rep that showed up and sat down with me billed herself as an immigration consultant. And even her business card said 'immigration consulting services'. Large, multinational companies with busy HR offices rely on services like this, who are too tied up to go through the paperwork motions and running off to Mokdong and sitting in line, etc... It's obviously a brokering sub-industry that has popped up as an intermediary, in a country that loves intermediary services (see: ESL recruitment; marriage brokerages; booking clubs, etc...).
Immigration consultants can run as much as $2-3000 to take these services off of an HR department's plate. Some companies balk at this, and some are so busy that they're willing to eat these costs.
The reason why I know such things, is that I worked in the HR department for over a year in a multinational company in Seoul and this kind of stuff would be an example of the shop talk that we would have.
I appreciate that you are basing your knowledge on 'what sounds right or doesn't sound right', but you are way out of line to even think about pointing fingers at someone for spreading misinfo, looking at the careless crap that you are spewing out now, strictly for the purpose of unjilting some wounded pride.
Nobody here cares about yours or anyone else's cyber rep, so scrambling around on all fours trying to save it, is fantastically moot. |
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