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Time of year for uni jobs

 
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Time of year for uni jobs Reply with quote

From reading many posts, I see that hogwan jobs are available almost anytime of the year.

I understand that university jobs do hiring around September-December for jobs beginning in March.

If I was to show up at the end of August and search for university jobs, would it be difficult for me to work at a hogwan from August until March if I give the hogwan advanced notice?

I understand the qualifications for obtaining uni jobs. I am simply trying to time my arrival. Thanks to anyone with answers!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Time of year for uni jobs Reply with quote

wrote:
From reading many posts, I see that hogwan jobs are available almost anytime of the year.

I understand that university jobs do hiring around September-December for jobs beginning in March.

If I was to show up at the end of August and search for university jobs, would it be difficult for me to work at a hogwan from August until March if I give the hogwan advanced notice?


Yes, very.
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d-rail



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you come over on your own terms (buy your own plane ticket) then most hogwons probably wouldnt care if you left early. no money lost on their part. you will have a difficult time getting a work visa to stay and work since you need a sponsor to get one (generally an E2 visa). the school is normally your sponsor. However, most foreigners have their airfare paid for by the school that is hiring them. if a hogwon agrees to pay all that money to fly you over they expect you to fulfill a 1 year contract. they would never pay for a ticket if they knew you would be gone in 6 months. basically the best way to get a good job is to get the one you want from the start, and not switch employers after a few months. it is possible to do, but i am not too knowledgeable on switching employers.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that second semester for unis starts sometime in August, around the middle...and there are always some openings. Something to keep in mind if teaching in a university is where you are headed.

I don't agree with the poster who said hakwons probably don't care if you only work a couple of months. They still have gone to the hassle of hiring a teacher, set up housing, doing the visa work and paying for a visa run. I'm fairly certain that most hakwons much prefer someone stay a whole year, or at least 6 months in a pinch. Yes, you might accidentally run across something, but I wouldn't bank on it, especially if you will be on limited funds.

Good luck.
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Karabeara



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Location: The right public school beats a university/unikwon job any day!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uni's are no longer the holy grail of teaching in Korea. They are all becoming unikwons, as somebody posted (teaching hagwon classes as part of a university institute). So funny, yet so true. I think Hongdae is the only well-known place worth staying.

The right public/private high school job is the way to go, from what I am hearing.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

University positions still have a lot of advantages over other positions.

Not all of them are turning into unikwons (thankfully) and most of them are differenciating when they hire between those teachers who will teach in the univetrsity hakwon and those who will be assigned to the English department.

Most still offer better vacation time and shorter work hours vs hakwons and public schools.

For someone with experience I would say Public Schools or Universities are the better choices unless you find a great hakwon that suits your preferences and there are many of those.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a good uniwon is still a decent step up the ladder to a decent uni. Take what you can get out the gate.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses, it helps quite a bit.

Does the same hiring time table apply to public school jobs?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrote:
Thanks for the responses, it helps quite a bit.

Does the same hiring time table apply to public school jobs?

Not really. They have the same 2 major "intakes" for new teachers each year but demand outstrips supply. I know a fair number of people who started midterm. Might take a bit more legwork, approaching provincial offices of education or individual schools, but its doable.

Be wary of recruiters with public school offerings. Some might be okay, but it seems others are trying to cash in on the sudden popularity of public school jobs by promoting dodgy afterhours schemes or hagwon/public school hybrid positions that arent the real thing.
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