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Korean Design Flaw #5

 
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Korean Design Flaw #5 Reply with quote

Running the guy who lives above you's laundry water pipe through your apartment. I "love" this one. Every time the tenant above me does his laundry (in this case, tonight it's 1:30am Rolling Eyes ) I get to hear his dirty water drain through my apartment. This annoyance seems to be standard in many Korean apartments. It was in my last apartment too.

Now I don't know how things are designed in apartments in other countries , but when I have lived in them, I never once heard the sound of water splattering through the pipes. This is just another example of poor Korean engineering and another reason why I will reconsider ever buying a Korean car or a major appliance.
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dreamscape



Joined: 05 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're only at #5?
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where I live now, it sounds like something broke and a waterfall is gushing down. When I first moved in, I panicked and searched the place sure I was getting flooded. I'm used to it now. Anytime they run water for anything...washing dishes, flushing the toilet, doing laundry....the waterfall sound-effects kick in. I've gotten used to it. At least they don't stamp their feet, chop food on the floor for hours, have screaming arguments, etc. etc.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
I'm used to it now. Anytime they run water for anything...washing dishes, flushing the toilet, doing laundry....the waterfall sound-effects kick in. I've gotten used to it. At least they don't stamp their feet, chop food on the floor for hours, have screaming arguments, etc. etc.


I'm not used to it because it happens at all hours of the night. Fortunately, the pipe is in a smal laundry room that I have with a sliding door that blocks 70% of the noise. What's really annoying is hearing the spin cycle of his (the guy above me) washing machine and / or his vacuum cleaner at 1:30 in the morning. I live in a "villa" apartment which has mainly stupid university students who think it's sooooo cool to stay up 'till 3 or 4 am on a weeknight watching TV. I guess mommy and daddy wouldn't let then do it at home, so now they can be rebelious. Rolling Eyes Stupid!
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed vs. quality is the major issue in construction here. I have a friend who does some contracting work, and he's mentioned that the schedules/deadlines set for them are so unreasonable that they have to cut corners all the time to keep the investors happy.

I saw a 50 lbs. lighting fixture come crashing down on during a house-warming party at a brand new apartment in Dogok-dong, in one of the nicest apartment buildings in Seoul. They didn't bother to anchor the thing, and it could have easily injured or possible killed someone.

That's what happens when you do things ppalli-ppalli.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Korea and I tend to blast people who put it down for no reason. This would most definitely not be one of those times. The building standards here suck!
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
I love Korea and I tend to blast people who put it down for no reason. This would most definitely not be one of those times. The building standards here suck!


Yeah...when you can't light a cigarette while standing next to a closed window, you know something is wrong.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coffeeman,

I have the same situation. My little washing machine sized laundry room is in the room where I sleep. But, I've lived here since December 2004 and have luckily always been a heavy sleeper. It does sometimes still take me by surprise, and more embarrassingly, sometimes hearing the water gush down really makes me have to pee. Embarassed
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a minor annoyance, IMHO. The sound of falling water can't be all that bad. I just find it funny they can't generally design elevators big enough to move furniture. So they need to have little trucks with telescoping lifts to move things up to apartments from the outside. Seems terribly dangerous.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
That's a minor annoyance, IMHO. The sound of falling water can't be all that bad. I just find it funny they can't generally design elevators big enough to move furniture. So they need to have little trucks with telescoping lifts to move things up to apartments from the outside. Seems terribly dangerous.


Agree. It's a minor annoyance, but if it's such a minor thing, why can't they take care of it? I find this to be a crude design like some middle school kid's science project. Sure, it works, but you can't tell me this is the best Korea can come up with. Lazy!

As for the furniture lift truck, this IS a briliant idea. They aren't taking over the elevator, so other tenants can't use it. Probably makes a quieter move too. Fewer people walking through the halls banging furniture around. This is one of their better ideas. As for the safety, well, anything's dangerous if careless people are using it.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coffeeman, i think you've misdiagnosed the design flaw.

It's not the fact that the plumming from above units is attached to yours. This type of construction is used in the the west as well...er, at least in canada. The only difference is that the plumbing back home uses a different type of 'doohickey' (forgot the name) that prevents smells and materials from backing up into another branch of the system.

The reason you don't hear the noise back home, is because the walls are constructed better. Insulation and thicker walls are the key, i think.

this link, even though it's for a house, shows the same design used for apartments.
http://www.hometips.com/hyhw/plumbing/plumbing1.html

JongnoGuru, where are you on this one?


Speaking of the noise, though...i can't tell you how many times i've been awaken by the drunk guy upstairs relieving his bladder. Only it's not the flush... I can hear the piss hitting the water in the bowl as if it were happening in my own bathroom. The worst part is the end, when he's obviously trying to shake out the remaining trickle of pee. I hope that doesn't happen to me when i get older....dribble.....dribble.....
Very aggravating.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time I hear my neighbors pee, I'm reminded that they can probably hear ME pee. Embarassed
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