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Are all of these horror stories from small towns?
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SOOHWA101



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Are all of these horror stories from small towns? Reply with quote

There seems to be a common theme in this forum of schools that give crappy apartments, delayed pay, xenophobic indifference, and alot of SHAFTING.

My question is this "Are you people in small towns?" I was wondering if this is also indicative to large citys like Seoul. Is it safer in larger citys?

Does anyone have any advice on the safest way to hit Korea from North America. Recruiters...BAD. So is this just a role of the dice.....a shot in the dark that we won't get screwed when we get over there. Why are people in the other forums not complaining about the same things that ya'll are?
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it really makes a diffreence. One of the most corrupt and blacklisted schools, Kids Club Mokdong is right in Seoul. Its a roll of the dice.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
I doubt it really makes a diffreence. One of the most corrupt and blacklisted schools, Kids Club Mokdong is right in Seoul. Its a roll of the dice.


That's very true. It might even be worse re: accomodation, as in small towns it's less expensive. (I live in one and have my own house).
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i live in a small town and my school is awesome, i have athree bedroom apartment (used to rent out one room) they gave me a laptop, vacation identical to korean teachers, paid me for vacation classes... havent seen much better for a middle school.

he he he, it's good to be me...
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you get the idea the posts you are seeing come from us country folks? The overwhelming majority of posters are the big city folks, and most of them are from Seoul.

Could it be that the big city folks are coming across like hicks Question















Wink
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fatpat



Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Location: The bright lights of Namchang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong, but I think the worse treatment is more likely to be in the big cities as the directors may be a bit more jaded with foriegners. Also, It's more difficult to attract teachers to the country-side, where as foriegners are two a penny in Seoul. My boss has had trouble trying to get somebody to replace me when I leave in 2 weeks. My friends and I have all been treated very well in Namchang and all have very decent apartments.
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inspector gadget



Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also in a small town, wait a small village and I am happy with my employer, middle school girls and there is nothing wrong with my apartment its big enough and is clean and came with all the amenities.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad schools are to be found everywhere. Not in one specific area.

Thats just why you need to take a few simple steps (or if you will use basic common sense) to minize the chance you end up in one of these schools.

Da steps:

1- Call the school and talk to the Director (if you can).

2- Call the school and talk to other Foreign teachers on staff.

3- Read your contract...all of it...not just the how much do I make clause Wink

4- If you have a good recruiter (yes they exist) ask him or her questions.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice, except for Mr. Homer, there is not a city slicker who has posted.

That says something about those big city boys. THEY know they are in the heart of the dens of corruption and iniquity.

PS: Wondering if fatpat and antoniothegreat could add anything to the 'Size Does Matter' thread.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer's right, except for one thing. Try to contact the foreign teachers either by e-mail or on a home phone. If you talk to them at work, there's a chance the director is standing behind them to make sure they say good things.
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margaret



Joined: 14 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also work in a small city and love my school and my apartment. My director is very kind.
Margaret
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happygirl



Joined: 20 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: I live in a small town too Reply with quote

fatpat wrote:
I could be wrong, but I think the worse treatment is more likely to be in the big cities as the directors may be a bit more jaded with foriegners. Also, It's more difficult to attract teachers to the country-side, where as foriegners are two a penny in Seoul. My boss has had trouble trying to get somebody to replace me when I leave in 2 weeks. My friends and I have all been treated very well in Namchang and all have very decent apartments.


Repeat above! I live Jinju. It's been a place. I leave the end of June and I'm frustrated with trying to find a replacement too. Seems like everyone only wants to live the fast life.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point peppermint!

Better to call them at home or via email.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a crapshoot but i think you will find the majority of horror stories do come from the big city...this is two fold..

1)As the vast majority of hagwons are in the big cities then more than likely the vast majority of horror stories come from there to

2) Hagwons in the deep country find it hard to get foreigners to start with so to make them angry would not do them much good at all as they are very hard to replace whereas in the city foreigners can be more expendable and are easier to attract..

I live in the relative country(pop 500 000) and have worked at 3 different schools and all of them have been great, there are a few bad ones here out of about 50 so just have to be careful but on the whole i think most people are happy here.
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SOOHWA101



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
Homer's right, except for one thing. Try to contact the foreign teachers either by e-mail or on a home phone. If you talk to them at work, there's a chance the director is standing behind them to make sure they say good things.


How would one find out how to contact the foreign teachers at these schools?
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