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DallasTexas
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: EASY MONEY |
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EASY MONEY
This isn��t about working for easy money; it refers to recruiters who make EASY MONEY off your paycheck each month.
If you are personally involved with a recruiter or agency that takes a percentage of your payment through a tuition bank account, I need your help gathering information to write an editorial on the subject.
You may remain anonymous if you choose.
I Don't Want Your Name Or Even The Name Of The School- Just Your Information!!!
Please provide as much specific detail as you can:
How much money was deposited into your account each month?
How much was withdrawn?
Do you believe anyone other than the recruiter received money?
Did the recruiter/agency have other native teachers working on the same arrangement?
Any other information you add is appreciated.
Please post here or PM me. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Sorry dallas but before anyone starts giving you such information..
Who are you?
Why do you need this information? |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone who agrees to these bank account deals is an idiot unless they are someway making money out of it without they're money being able to be screwed with. |
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DallasTexas
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Who am I?
I'm nobody basically, just an American, born in Texas. I have a job at a public school, but in the process of job hunting I stumbled onto a couple of those "tuition bank account" contracts.
I studied journalism in college and I used to write articles occassionally for my local newspaper. So I thought that it might be a good idea to write a story, probably just an editoral, about these contracts. I want to give a definitive answer to their legality, and expose recruiters who try to get a piece of the pie every single month.
I'm backing the native teachers and the school kids, and I'm against recruiters and agents, who get a king's ransom for very little work. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: Tution Bank Accounts |
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| DallasTexas wrote: |
Who am I?
I'm nobody basically, just an American, born in Texas. I have a job at a public school, but in the process of job hunting I stumbled onto a couple of those "tuition bank account" contracts.
I studied journalism in college and I used to write articles occassionally for my local newspaper. So I thought that it might be a good idea to write a story, probably just an editoral, about these contracts. I want to give a definitive answer to their legality, and expose recruiters who try to get a piece of the pie every single month.
I'm backing the native teachers and the school kids, and I'm against recruiters and agents, who get a king's ransom for very little work. |
These arrangements are very, very, very normal here in Taiwan. Jenny Lai (a.k.a, Jenny Lie to most of the poor folks who have run into her) and Andrew Lin are two recruiters who take 20% of one's monthly salary.
In Korea, ENI's Steven Grommesh ([email protected]), a gyopo narc who gets people to score him dope and then has Mr. Lee Sang Yong of the Seoul Central Prosecutors' Office arrest them, also gets a monthly cut of some of his teachers' salaries. PM me for more details about Steven Grommesh. |
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DallasTexas
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I appreciate your reply.
If anyone else has any info, please let me know.
I'd really like to write a story and expose those guys. I understand that any teacher with a contract that includes a "tuition bank account" clause, might be nervous about disclosing the info on this forum. But will you PM me?
I became aware of the tuition bank account problem when I applied for an ESL teaching position. The advertisement stated that the position was with a public school, and so I was surprised to discover that an agent/recruiter was involved and would remain involved for the duration of the contract.
To begin the process, the native teacher is required to sign a contract with the agent/recruiter. Once the native teacher signs the agent��s contract:
The native teacher is introduced to the public school by the agent.
The native teacher is next hired by the school system, and receives a contract from the public school.
However, the contract between the agent/recruiter and the native teachers has a clause that reads:
The contract made between the employee and the school is only for obtaining E-2 visa under the laws of the Republic of Korea. The contract made between the employer and the employee is the actual contract which comes to an effect to the employee. Therefore, the employee takes all the responsibilities and rights under the contract made between the employer and the employee.
As the primary condition of employment, the native teacher agrees that their paycheck from the school system will be deposited into a ��tuition bank account��.
The employee consents that the employee will open a 'tuition bank account', which the school deposits tuition fees to and the employer withdraws them from, for the purpose of paying the teachers' salaries, running English classes, managing its programs, training the teachers and developing present curriculums under the employee's name with his/her stamp. The employer will maintain it and take all responsibilities related to this bank account by the time the employer withdraws the last tuition fee.
Moreover, the native teacher relinquishes ownership of the bank account as shown below:
The employee is not allowed to withdraw money, change the password and cancel the account for the English class (not employee's own account) under the agreement with the employer even after finishing the contract. After the employer withdraws all the money from the "tuition bank account" after the last payment of the contract, the account can be closed by the employer. Although the "tuition bank account" is under the employee's name, the money in the account belongs to the employer.
Seen anything like that? Let me know |
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