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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: quick grammar question Reply with quote

Im not sure whether this is just american english vs english english but i was taught at school (from NZ) learn (present) -learnt (past) and learned as in he is a learned (learn-ed) man.

But i was talking to my fellow english teacher (canadian) and he said that learnt is more of an older version of the word (he is a proper teacher and has taught in England), and is now normally restricted to poetry?

does anybody know the answer to this? If it is just AE vs EE then i will teach both forms otherwise?


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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are acceptable and correct. British English uses the irregular form "learnt," while American English uses "learned." It's the same for other words such as smelt and smelled, and spelt and spelled. These irregular forms are, in no way, restricted to poetry. What about burnt and burned?
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LarrytheGiraffee



Joined: 12 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While in American English learnt is hardly ever used, when it is used it will most likely be used as an adjective (and in that instance it has a bit of a hill billy twang to it).
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I say Tomato, you say Tomato" Shocked
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Angelus



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to be anal or anything but "grammer" is spelled "grammar"
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elynnor



Joined: 08 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Angelus



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both "spelled" and "spelt" are correct....but I'm a stupid American that uses "spelled."
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

learnt= relates to a one-off, single thing.eg.."I learnt the sentence".

Learned= relates to a longer learning period, over time. A bit like learning a language, or how to ski. " I learned quantum physics".
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angelus wrote:
Both "spelled" and "spelt" are correct....but I'm a stupid American that uses "spelled."


Correct. From www.m-w.com:

Main Entry: spell
Pronunciation: 'spel
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): spelled /'speld, 'spelt/; spell��ing
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelsey Grammer.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grammer puncher yer grammer in the nose.

What color was the spelling?


s-p-e-l-l-e-d spelz spelt and you are not it. Wink
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Marcilla



Joined: 24 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

america = right, non america = wrong

therefore

"learnt" is wrong l2speakenglishnoob
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