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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: quick grammar question |
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Im not sure whether this is just american english vs english english but i was taught at school (from NZ) learn (present) -learnt (past) and learned as in he is a learned (learn-ed) man.
But i was talking to my fellow english teacher (canadian) and he said that learnt is more of an older version of the word (he is a proper teacher and has taught in England), and is now normally restricted to poetry?
does anybody know the answer to this? If it is just AE vs EE then i will teach both forms otherwise?
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I_Am_Wrong
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Both are acceptable and correct. British English uses the irregular form "learnt," while American English uses "learned." It's the same for other words such as smelt and smelled, and spelt and spelled. These irregular forms are, in no way, restricted to poetry. What about burnt and burned? |
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LarrytheGiraffee

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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| While in American English learnt is hardly ever used, when it is used it will most likely be used as an adjective (and in that instance it has a bit of a hill billy twang to it). |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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"I say Tomato, you say Tomato"  |
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Angelus
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| not to be anal or anything but "grammer" is spelled "grammar" |
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elynnor
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Angelus
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Both "spelled" and "spelt" are correct....but I'm a stupid American that uses "spelled." |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: |
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learnt= relates to a one-off, single thing.eg.."I learnt the sentence".
Learned= relates to a longer learning period, over time. A bit like learning a language, or how to ski. " I learned quantum physics". |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Angelus wrote: |
| Both "spelled" and "spelt" are correct....but I'm a stupid American that uses "spelled." |
Correct. From www.m-w.com:
Main Entry: spell
Pronunciation: 'spel
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): spelled /'speld, 'spelt/; spell��ing |
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jacl
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Kelsey Grammer. |
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some waygug-in
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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My grammer puncher yer grammer in the nose.
What color was the spelling?
s-p-e-l-l-e-d spelz spelt and you are not it.  |
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Marcilla
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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america = right, non america = wrong
therefore
"learnt" is wrong l2speakenglishnoob |
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