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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Then you are saying that the forgone(sp?) opportunities you may have had back home are outweighed by your monetary gains here? Things such as love, respect, acceptance, and other intangibles that are difficult (according to what you are saying) to achieve in this country are of less value to you than money?  |
The thing is, we know it's not forever.
Stay a year and you can finance a dream holiday and pay off your bills.
I'm sure there aren't too many of us in Korea because it's our ideal working destination.
Mind you, I've been in far worse places than Korea. I'm having a hard time seeing why it is so 'dreadful' in so many people's eyes. It's far from perfect, but if you came expecting it to be perfect you must be insane. Take yourselves to India for a proper 'disgusting' experience. You'll love Korea like you never dreamed you could. |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: |
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I suggest you be realistic when coming over here. There are cultural differences, but I don't find it difficult to overcome. You'll have the same problems you'd have back home except in a different context.
I decided to go with a reputable company my first year (which I am still currently in) even though it paid a bit less. Now I know more and can move on from here. There's still problems but I've never had a job that was problem free. In fact, this is probably the best job I've ever had just because I feel like so many different aspects of myself are growing.
But I do agree that most people come here to bitch (myself included at times), but its a small portion of the total people. All the problems I've had here (which don't count too high) could have easily happened at home but in a much more mundane way. I'd rather drink my worries away with cheap soju on a neon-lit alley than with overpriced Molson at a dank bar.
But that's just me. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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You forgot one:
Disgruntled ex-pats who have been screwed over royally and have a legitimate beef to air. I have never met anyone here who hasn't had to deal with this at one point or other. It's a fact of life here. While not every job is bad, the good jobs aren't "so rosy" either.
While many may be "happy" here in Korea, there are very few who don't or didn't have to make major adjustments to their attitudes and their expectations.
Korea was and is hard on me. I've been here 4 years and there are still a lot of things that get to me. But the bottom line is....I can save money.[/quote
Then you are saying that the forgone(sp?) opportunities you may have had back home are outweighed by your monetary gains here? Things such as love, respect, acceptance, and other intangibles that are difficult (according to what you are saying) to achieve in this country are of less value to you than money?  |
You are putting words in my mouth. I am saying that even though I could earn more per month back home......... I couldn't save much of it.
Yes, I do miss a lot of things from back home, but I don't miss high taxes, car repairs, gas, insurance.. yada yada ... on and on.
Money isn't everything, but it's nice to have more money each month than bills.
There are far more interesting places to be with regards to teaching, but usually, the more interesting the place....... the less the wage. I know I can save here. Some other country...quien sabe? |
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semphoon

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Where Nowon is
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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I love Korea.
Im so glad I moved here (and Im in an area where I am the only white guy...i mean THE only whote guy).
I have been here 6 months and have never been home sick.
My life here is simple - I go to the gym, go to work, then chat on the internet/read/watch DVDs. At the weekend, I go to Seoul to meet westerners and have "proper" conversation (and get tanked).
I get paid well to do a job which I like. My boss and my co-workers have helped me many times and I have always been paid on time and in full. At Cristmas, my boss took me skiing with his wife so I didn't feel alone.
Most importantly, it depends on you and your attitude you bring with you. My situation would be crap to most folk; to me its a simple and happy situation. |
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| semphoon wrote: |
I love Korea.
Im so glad I moved here (and Im in an area where I am the only white guy...i mean THE only whote guy).
I have been here 6 months and have never been home sick.
My life here is simple - I go to the gym, go to work, then chat on the internet/read/watch DVDs. At the weekend, I go to Seoul to meet westerners and have "proper" conversation (and get tanked).
I get paid well to do a job which I like. My boss and my co-workers have helped me many times and I have always been paid on time and in full. At Cristmas, my boss took me skiing with his wife so I didn't feel alone.
Most importantly, it depends on you and your attitude you bring with you. My situation would be crap to most folk; to me its a simple and happy situation. |
Amen |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Try not to worry. Even after 4 years of teaching in Korea, every time I take a new job I worry that I will get screwed over. I have been screwed a few times and even my best school in korea managed to do things that bothered me, like working 2 years with zero sick days. That was tough. I still don't think my body has recovered from last July, when I had to work a whole month sick with bronchitis. I had a fever the last week of July and had to teach 3 kindy parent observation classes in that condition. I thought I would die blowing my nose and coughing every 5 minutes in front of parents. I had to sing and read stories with a really bad voice. The manager told the parents I was sick probably because I was nervous. One of the Mom's who spoke English told on my manager after the class finished. I am seeing my parents for the first time in 2 years these past 3 weeks. I am considering going to Korea again soon. I don't know about everyone else, but whenever I have break and see my parents, it takes every ounce of strength I can muster to get on that plane. I enjoy Korea and I like to enjoy life so in 4 years time, I haven't saved more than 10,000 dollars, plus I have student loans. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Marcilla wrote: |
It's gone really well for me so far
I think one thing you have to remember is that if someone has a *beep* time and goes back to his homeland in disgrace, the whole time said person is sleeping on his parents' couch looking for a new job that person is going to be spending 2-3 hours a day trolling the internet and lamenting various things |
That's one good thing I have going for me. As an only child who is also single, my parents tell me I have a roof over rmy head as long as I want. Even in the states, I would never have to pay rent unless I just wanted to. |
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Francis-Pax

Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Smaller risk, smaller return.
No pain, no gain.
You will only know if it is worth it for you, if you try. You might get screwed but the percentage of people that I have met in Korea have not been screwed is higher than those that have been screwed.
I think that teaching English in Korea offers everyone in Korea a unique opportunity to learn something about a different culture, education, and oneself.
If you are so scared, then don't bother coming. You need to be brave to do this. |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Do your homework(Dave's, EFL-Law), check your references(teachers, recruiters, et al) and come on over. |
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