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Keep your Diploma, use PHOTOCOPIES
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay $25 and get another copy from your university. Pay $50 and you get two! Rolling Eyes
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plattwaz



Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had my notarized photocopies rejected twice before, and told that the original was necessary, although for my first job I was able to use a photocopy.

When my copy was rejected for my second job's visa application, I argued it -- if it was accepted the first time, why not the second? I was told that it was up to which office was processing your documents, and some are different than others.

So, before stating that it's 100% ok to use notarized photcopies, I would recommend that someoen check it out - and be prepared to have to send your original if needed.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some questions for Plattwaz:

Who was it that told you your certified photocopies were not acceptable? Was it an employer, recruiter or were you actually at immigration at the time it happened?

and

Do you have notarized photocopies certified by the Korean embassy with the stamps affixed showing the fees paid etc.?

Just curious.
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PolyChronic Time Girl



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited

PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought notarized copies weren't accepted anymore? Immigration in my town said that I had to provide them with my original degree...then they gave the original degree back to my boss. Then the parasite-man kept my degree, hence my need to break into his office and steal it back.
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YoungLi



Joined: 06 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
I thought notarized copies weren't accepted anymore? Immigration in my town said that I had to provide them with my original degree...then they gave the original degree back to my boss. Then the parasite-man kept my degree, hence my need to break into his office and steal it back.


Immigration gave your "original degree BACK" to your boss? How did your boss get it in the first place? You gave it to him? If so, I hope you've learned a lesson. But breaking in and stealing the degree back seems like a real underhanded way of going about it... probably illegal too. Maybe you were just kidding.

If it were me, I'd politely ask for it back and insist without being unprofessional. Let's say he won't under any circumstance GIVE it back to you then just chalk it up to experience cut you losses and order a duplicate copy from your university if it bothers you that much. Most universities, at least in the USA, it's a reasonable fee to order another copy. I'd probably let the boss know I was going to do this and take my chances he'd give me back the original.

I recently contacted two consulates to get the low down in this issue and I was told by one, "we need your original WITH your notory signed copies along with ..... but you need to contact the consolute nearest where you got your degree because different consulates operate differently." Oh the madness of it all!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes
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plattwaz



Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
I have some questions for Plattwaz:

Who was it that told you your certified photocopies were not acceptable? Was it an employer, recruiter or were you actually at immigration at the time it happened?


No problem for asking.

The first time I got my E-2, in 2002, I used notarized copies -- notarized by a lawyer in Canada, then taken to the Korean embassy inmy country who I paid and they affized a sticker to it. It wasn't a problem.

The second time I applied for an E-2, in 2003, my employer sent the same thing to immi -- notarized both by a lawyer and the consulate. Immi sent it back and requested my original. I did, and I trust that my employer wasn't making it up, because my original was returned to me promptly. When I asked why it was different from a year before, they called immi and asked. The response was that my first E2 was in a different "gu" and each "gu" can decide their own rules.

The 3rd E-2 I applied for, this past March, my director didn't want to take my original degree as she said it was too valuable to me to risk immigration bending it, folding it, or losing it. So, we sent the notarized photocopies -- a pain in the arse because I had to sent my degree home to my mother who went to the lawyer and the consulate and sent it back to me in Korea. Immigration refused it and said that only the original was
acceptable.

ontheway wrote:


Do you have notarized photocopies certified by the Korean embassy with the stamps affixed showing the fees paid etc.?

Just curious.


Yep - see above. I hope you realize I wasn't trying to be snarky with my post....just pointing out that despite what may be in fact a rule, doesn't always mean that the people processing things know that rule....things here aren't always the same in every area for every applicant. As we all know . . .
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plattwaz, thanks for the reply. I'm here for the long haul and I'm trying to keep up on the immi situation. I plan on staying where I am. This hogwan is the best. But, we will have teacher openings here someday (maybe next summer, or sooner if we can get more space and expand) so I want to make it easy for whoever comes. Wink
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Keep your Diploma, use PHOTOCOPIES Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
You take that degree to a copy shop and make copies - PHOTOCOPIES. They cost a pennies each so make a bunch. Now, take these or mail these to your Korean Embassy or Consulate and get them certified. You pay for each one, but it's worth it. Get a bunch. Plan how many years you think you'll be in Korea. Get double that and maybe a couple extra for job hunting. The Korean embassy will stamp and certify those PHOTOCOPIES. They do have to see your original diploma at the embassy, but no one in Korea needs to see it. Not even immigration.

That is what the law requires. A certified COPY of your diploma. Not a certified original.

Thank you for this information, if indeed it is the correct information (and this is what I'm going for at present.)

A few questions:
    Did you make black and white copies or color? (a bit more than "pennies each"!)

    Must you send the diploma and diploma copies to your nearest embassy, your university's nearest embassy, or will any convenient embassy or consulate do?

    How much does this service cost? I know I should call the particular embassy I will use, but they have a history of NOT communicating with me clearly (or at all!)

Thanks to anyone who can accurately answer my questions!
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used black and white copies 3 cents each at Kinko's.

Color copies would look more official.

Some info on other threads says that you need to send your diploma and photocopies to be certified to the Korean embassy or consulate that is nearest to your university. You'll have to call them.

When I did it, I drove to one that was 40 minutes away, but far from my university.

Some people have been claiming that you MUST send your original diploma to Korea now. Are there people out there still getting by with photocopies?
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Angelus



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notarized copies were accepted in the past. Slowly, but surely they are changing their policy and practices. So prepare to have your originals sent. If you are the type who thinks of your diploma as the Holy Grail, I would advise coming to Korea on a tourist visa and doing a visa run to Japan. Most schools should be ok with that. It's actually quicker and less of a hassle for many schools anyway.
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Porter_Goss



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all really depends on the Consulate. My local (Seattle) won't notarize copies unless they are photocopied at the Consulate. It has been said before, but the same Consulate will only notarize degrees from local Universities; UW, WSU, CWU, EWU, ect...

Don't take anything you read on this board as law. Call your Consulate.
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noguri



Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Location: korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: visa run to Fukoka Reply with quote

Angelus,

What you're saying is that if I come to Korea on a tourist visa and then get a job and make the visa run to Japan, then I WON'T be asked to SURRENDER my original diploma?

Does that mean that the Korean consulate in Japan will either just accept my notarized copy of the degree, or that they will simply take my sealed transcripts, then inspect the original degree and hand it back to me, then issue me the E-2?
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont even use my diploma at all. No copies.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe all the discourse going on about this. A few years back I just generated some copies of my original/genuinine degree and then went to the local stamp maker and had them make a stamp saying "REAL:Not Bogus" stamped it on the duplicates and have been utilizing them w/out a hitch for the previous 3 job/visa processes here in the Big Cabbage...simple as that!Very Happy
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ProsePech



Joined: 24 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of May 15, 2005 Notorized copies were not accepted any more. The Korean Consulate in Toronto, CA had stamped all of my copies, 5 in all and then I still had to send my original to Korea. I got my original back within a week of being in Korea. I think I was lucky considering some of the teachers here apparently have to "break and enter" to get their's back. Before you leave to come here I suggest asking the consulate what they know to save yourself some heartache.
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