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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: OK, Who Knows How To Cook a Persimmon? Reply with quote

I'm in a baking mood. I found a recipe for persimmon bread. I bought a pack of 6 and brought them home. Then I read the recipe. I'm in trouble.

1) How do you know when a persimmon is ripe? Mine are pretty hard.

2) Should I refrigerate them till they ripen?

3) When they do get ripe, do I peel them or use the skin?

4) The recipe says to pulp them. Ummm...does that mean mash 'em with a potato masher?

5) Are there going to a lot of little seeds, one big one?


To satisfy your curiosity, I chose this recipe because it said the final product will be similar to pumpkin bread, which I love. And given that cans of pumpkin are hard to come by and �� are all over the place, I figured I'd give it a shot.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: OK, Who Knows How To Cook a Persimmon? Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I'm in a baking mood. I found a recipe for persimmon bread. I bought a pack of 6 and brought them home. Then I read the recipe. I'm in trouble.

1) How do you know when a persimmon is ripe? Mine are pretty hard.


There are two types of persimmons - and I am surprised that you can still buy them... aren't they a bit out of season now?

Anyway, yeah, there is the hard type and there is the soft type. Normally you eat the hard ones as they are, that's why they sell them hard... I prefer the hard ones to the soft ones, to be honest.. but you can wait until they become soft.

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2) Should I refrigerate them till they ripen?


Put them in a paper bag, put in the fridge and wait.

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3) When they do get ripe, do I peel them or use the skin?


The skin is pretty chewy, so you should take it off.

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4) The recipe says to pulp them. Ummm...does that mean mash 'em with a potato masher?


I think a fork will do.

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5) Are there going to a lot of little seeds, one big one?


One or two big ones.

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To satisfy your curiosity, I chose this recipe because it said the final product will be similar to pumpkin bread, which I love. And given that cans of pumpkin are hard to come by and �� are all over the place, I figured I'd give it a shot.


Good luck.

I made some banana bread yesterday. It was good.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, why would you need to buy tin pumpkin to make pumpkin bread... can't you just get a fresh pumpkin, cook it and then mash it up?
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kimchikowboy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where you found your recipe, but I've made this a few times and it has come out great.
http://bread.allrecipes.com/az/PersimmonBread.asp
I've always used the soft persimmons, though.

Apples are easy to find here, and this one for apple bread is absolutely fantastic.
http://www.recipezaar.com/76946
I add some raisins, too.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, thanks bunches for the info, tzechuk. Good answers to all my questions. I had no idea there were two kinds. I'll keep that in mind next fall when they are back in season.

Re: pumpkins. I'm intimidated by the idea of turning a pumpkin into mush. I don't have a clue how a pumpkin gets from a vine into a can. It sounds like a lot of work.

PS: If my bread turns out good, I'll owe you one. If it turns out like crap, I'll have someone to blame. Wink

I share my banana bread with the teachers at school. They were so surprised that it tasted like bananas.

kimchikowboy: The persimmon bread recipe is the same one I found. That site is excellent for recipes. The part I like are the reviews from users. They often contain good ideas for alternatives and substitutions. My apple bread recipe calls for dark brown sugar. Have you tried the Pear Bread recipe at allrecipes? That's high on my list to try.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew persimmons existed in theory but I've never seen one. I saw all these weird tomato things for sale when I first moved to Korea and thought they must be asian tomatoes. Asian pears. Chinese cabbage. Asian tomatoes made sense. Turned out it was a persimmon. So glad I noticed it smelled sweet before I made tomato sauce from it.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
I knew persimmons existed in theory but I've never seen one. I saw all these weird tomato things for sale when I first moved to Korea and thought they must be asian tomatoes. Asian pears. Chinese cabbage. Asian tomatoes made sense. Turned out it was a persimmon. So glad I noticed it smelled sweet before I made tomato sauce from it.


Yes, that's the soft type if they look like tomatoes.

The hard types are more yellow than orange. Tastes really good.

Have you try dry persimmon coated in sugar? it's delicious!!! (albeit a little pricey)
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Hey, thanks bunches for the info, tzechuk. Good answers to all my questions. I had no idea there were two kinds. I'll keep that in mind next fall when they are back in season.

Re: pumpkins. I'm intimidated by the idea of turning a pumpkin into mush. I don't have a clue how a pumpkin gets from a vine into a can. It sounds like a lot of work.

PS: If my bread turns out good, I'll owe you one. If it turns out like crap, I'll have someone to blame. Wink

I share my banana bread with the teachers at school. They were so surprised that it tasted like bananas.

kimchikowboy: The persimmon bread recipe is the same one I found. That site is excellent for recipes. The part I like are the reviews from users. They often contain good ideas for alternatives and substitutions. My apple bread recipe calls for dark brown sugar. Have you tried the Pear Bread recipe at allrecipes? That's high on my list to try.


You are welcome, Ya-ta boy. I hope your bread turns out well.

As for the pumpkin, I think they add a lot of water to mush it all up in a liquidiser, so it's smooth. That's what I used to do for Letty when I gave it to her as one of her first foods!!
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elynnor



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:


Have you try dry persimmon coated in sugar? it's delicious!!! (albeit a little pricey)


Yeah. Very good. Yeah very pricey Smile I keep a cookie jar on my desk at work and fill it with cookies or crackers I pick up in the 990 won bin. If a kid comes by the speak to me in English, I give him/her a cookie. My Korean teacher asked me to stop giving cookies to this one fat girl that comes in. The fat girl is small and kind of looks like a Korean ewok to me. It's hard to say no to her. Ignore the fact that her own parents send her to hagwon with a backpack full of potato chips and she's usually wandering the halls mowing down on that. The two vanilla wafers I give her are going to send her over the edge.

So I decided I'll keep a stash of healthier snacks. I bought a pack of those dried persimmon. The fat girl came in, asked for a cookie, I offered her a dried persimmon. She howled and ran away.

Sigh.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elynnor,

Sufferin' succotash! Thanks. It doesn't appear to be as hard as I imagined, unless you are playing an April Fool's joke on me. Years of needless suffering and depravation are at an end, thanks to you. Very Happy

You answered all my questions but one: Roughly speaking, how many cups of mash?/pulp?/goo?....will come out of one pumpkin? Is there some sort of rule of thumb to go by....a 2,000 g pumpkin makes enough stuff to float my rubber duckie in the bathtub?

Eternally grateful,

Ya-ta Boy

The mysteries of foods starting with the letter 'P' are being answered beyond my wildest dreams.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... that sounds like a better way of mushing up pumpkin.. heehe... but for Letty, it was the best for us to boil it and add water to liquidise it.

we just need periwinkle to come, ya-ta boy - she is a wealth of knowledge as far as baking is concerned Wink
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having the presence (or absence) of mind to google "recipes for persimmons" the first entry came up thus:
http://www.seasonalchef.com/persimmonrecipes.htm

Six Persimmon Recipes

Persimmon Cookies I
Persimmon Cookies II
Persimmon Chews
Persimmon Rice Pudding
Fuyu Bundt Cake
Persimmon Chutney


The first four of these recipes won't require you to take sides in the war between aficionados of the fuyu and devotees of the hachiya -- if you aren't already a partisan in that fight. They simply call for persimmon pulp, leaving it to you to decide which variety it comes from.

Fuyus, for the uninitiated, are crunchy like an apple while hachiyas are soft when they're ripe. So hachiyas arguably are better suited for recipes that call for pulp. However, by some accounts, fuyus can be softened up by leaving them in the freezer over night.

The cake recipe specifies use of the fuyu variety, which isn't too surprising since the recipe was published by the Califuyu, the California Fuyu Growers Association. Go to their Web site to learn more about fuyu persimmons. The chutney recipe calls for persimmons that can be blanched and diced. Ripe hachiyas would never stand up to such treatment so it's probably safe to assume that the recipe, from a senior citizens center in Tasmania, calls for fuyus...
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, by some accounts, fuyus can be softened up by leaving them in the freezer over night.


Thanks for weighing in with that piece of info. For W3,000, I think I can afford to give it a try. Right now, my fuyus are hard as a rock.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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