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| Which Pink Floyd era is your favorite? |
| Syd Barrett era |
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15% |
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| Post-Syd era (late 60s) |
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12% |
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| Meddle, Obscured by Clouds, Dark Side of the Moon era |
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37% |
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| Waters-dominated era (Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall) |
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34% |
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skinhead

Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| skinhead wrote: |
Incidentally, David Gilmour has just released a new solo album entitled On An Island.
http://www.davidgilmour.com/ Turn your speakers on for a very brief taste. I've just got mine today, but there's some ritual to observe before the first listening. I'll get back to you.  |
Some parts are more Floyd than most of the last two albums, and the opening instrumental has shades of Roger's more recent stuff. When I hear it, I get that picture of Dave in Jokers Wild in the 60s trying to look like Syd. Personally I think the title track is about the best thing Dave's created for about 30 years. That understated low down lead is fantastic, creeping through the nether-regions of the song, and the lyric, "halfway to the stars" is beautifully evocative. If you've been camping out back on a moonless, cloudless night, you'll know exactly what it feels like. The album's a ten for me; I haven't been listening to anything else since I got it a few weeks ago. Comparisons are inevitable, but it's great on it's 'original' merits too. Can't help thinking of Syd though. |
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Porter_Goss

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I liked their Reggae phase.
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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1990: in the Spring I'm breaking off chunks of the wall for souvenirs; By July the whole damned thing has been carted away and where there used to be a no man's land less than a year before is suddenly an outdoor concert and we're boozing and toking in the middle of something like 300,000 people...
Driving from Brussles to Berlin all night to get there was a story in itself- a 3 AM traffic jam in the middle of nowheresville E. Germany, on one of the 3 autobahn routes from W. Germany to Berlin: thousands of cars, all heading for this concert. People partying on the side of the road and strolling around to other vehicles waiting for the jam to clear (it had to do with gasoline incompatibility and only one service station with Western-grade gas).
Incredible.
The whole thing felt historic.
I still haven't seen the concert video that was filmed there, afraid it would ruin my memories (I've had a sneaky suspicion that the actual musical performance might not have been all that good; note to self, must rent it soon).
Anyway, I kept my ticket and the mask we were all handed at the gate:
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| Thargelion wrote: |
| Requiem for a Post-War Dream |
What the hell's that?
Guys, I recently heard Roger Waters' 'Amused to Death' (whole album). There are some good songs but generally it's tedious in my view.
I really appreciate Waters' contribution to Floyd because he wrote most of the lyrics and also the basis of many great Floyd songs like Money.
I have issues with Big Rog, however, and these are:
1. Whilst RW wrote the lyrics and basis for 'Money' and numerous others, is his sole name being there underneath the song justified? Did he write Gilmour's guitar lines? Did he write all the other many layers of great music? I assume not. Other names should be there because if it's just Rog with an accoustic singing a blues song called 'Money', it's not as good. It's a collaborative effort.
2. Floyd in my view on Meddle, DSOTM and Atom Heart Mother is amongst the best music ever written. Their stuff prior to that is even better. The Waters-dominated era just sounds like any old group. The Floyd magic is gone. I love the vocal harmonies of Gilmour and Wright. Indeed, Rick Wright is my favorite because he wrote great songs like 'Summer '68', 'Remember a Day' and 'Paintbox'....dark, miserably-trippy, gray as an English summer's day. It rocks, I say.
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I think you got it bass-ackwards. Piper at the Gates was an amazing album, but then Syd left, and their next few albums were a mess. some great stuff overall, but sloppy and without a coherent vision.
Look at the song Free Four on Obscured by the Clouds. Thoughtful lyrics (Life is a warm short moment) that are totally inappropriate to the sing-songy way they are delivered. good song, but a mess. the only album that they really nailed during that period was Meddle.
then with dark side, they really pulled it together. all the songs worked together and it was great. wish you were here was just as good. animals was a bit less good, but still great. and then the wall was amazing. there's such emotion in the wall that's lacking in dark side. i'd say dark side holds up better because of all the wonderful layers of music let you listen to it over and over. but the wall...wow...who has the nerve to write a song like "Mother" or "nobody home?" and, christ, have you heard When the Tigers Broke Free? how does a person put an exact account of their father's death to music? crazy stuff. there was a time in my life when I thought that it was very ironic that the only person in the world who seems to understand me is a person who i've never met named roger waters who is, by all accounts, a total asshole.
the final cut and amused to death (the only roger's stuff worth listening to) show what you get when roger takes over completely. it's like a disturbance in the force. great stuff, really great stuff, but somehow lacking that atmosphere and elegance and symphonic quality that gilmour and the others apparently put in. but i say 'amused to death' is awesome. i've listened to that album a million times.
well, that's my rant. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I've never considered the lyrics and music fitting on Free Four - you could have a point there, but as it's a great song I ain't too bothered.
For me, 'Piper' aside, an island of a Floyd album really, Saucerful - WYWH just IS Floyd. Anything subsequent to that is the Roger Waters Group and, as much as I like Big Rog, I much prefer Pink Floyd, which includes his vital contributions.
I love the song 'Mother' and a couple of others from The Wall ('Run Like Hell' and 'Hey You' are GREAT! classic PF) but as an album, overall, it's an overblown piece of crap in my opinion.
Okay, fellow Floyd nerds, here's Syd's Floyd playing 'Apples and Oranges': http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ts4z_Xpsymk&search=pink%20floyd . watch as they mime, because poor Syd has totally lost it. The camera hardly focuses on Syd - ususual considering he's the lead singer - because of these issues. It's sad but essential viewing if you haven't already seen it. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Syd Barrett era
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn may be the greatest British psychedelic album. It is more humorous, pop-friendly, and lighthearted than their subsequent works. |
Actually, it's the second best. The best one is the band's original demo mix of that album which was made prior to the commercial release of a remixed version. I first came across this gem of a recording in the late 80's. A friend of a friend who was a rare records dealer had a copy of the first release. It had cost him a bundle to track it down for a client (I was told only 150 copies were made in 1967). Luckily, it was re-released as a CD in the late 90's.
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Poemer
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Location: Mullae
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Waters era, because "The Final Cut" edges out a lot of other great PF albums as my favorite. If you haven't given it a listen, do so immmediately. |
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SirFink

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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The Syd era is the best. "Jugband Blues" is indeed a masterpiece. Even Waters admitted that he and the rest of the band were just boring architecture students while Syd was the fine artist of the group in their art school days, and thus came up with the most creative stuff.
I listen to the Waters-dominated stuff and it's just boring heroin rock to my ears. That ride cymbal just rides me off into a deep slumber. "Us............. ....... and...... them......... " *snore* |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
Actually, it's the second best. |
I'd put Ogden's Nut Gone Flake ahead of it.
"Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin..."
Anyway, it's a moot point because of Sgt Pepper. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Poemer wrote: |
| Waters era, because "The Final Cut" edges out a lot of other great PF albums as my favorite. If you haven't given it a listen, do so immmediately. |
I've heard a couple of songs from it - Final Cut (?) and Fletcher Memorial Home and one other - and it's just the usual solo Roger bollox in my book. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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The final cut...i've never been able to figure out what i think of that album. in some ways, its the best floyd album, and in other ways its clearly the worst, or one of them. the lyrics are great, but what really gets you is the purity of emotion. i think thats why waters' felt justified in comandeering the band. for one, he had just dropped an album that would eventually go 23x (!) platinum. for another, he was really writing from a completely raw, honest perspective, so he *had* to be right.
what suffers is the music. it changes pace too often and doesn't really establish a mood. david's awesome guitar is almost completely absent, replaced with a crying saxophone. everything is stripped down, but not in a good way. gone is the atmospheric spaciness of the previous albums. but, you've always got the lyrics. there really is no better music to slit your wrists to.
"Through the fish-eyed lense of tear-stained eyes
I can barely define the shape of this moment in time"
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"She stood in the doorway, the ghost of a smile
Haunting her face like a cheap hotel sign."
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"Floating down through the clouds
Memories come rushing up to meet me now.
In the space between the heavens
and in the corner of some foreign field
I had a dream."
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"And still the dark stain spreads between
His shoulder blades.
A mute reminder of the poppy fields and graves.
And when the fight was over
We spent what they had made.
But in the bottom of our hearts
We felt the final cut."
and in what other rock album can you get a song where the chorus of a song is "f*ck all that, we gotta get on with these"?
**as you can see, i could rant on about pink floyd all day |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Gilmour's 'On an island' (the song - haven't heard the album) is U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E!
Heard it ages ago so I dunno why I'm telling you now.
The chords in the "we lay side by side, between the moon and the tide" are almost ingenious - all minors.
Em: we lay side by
bm: side
dm: between the moon and the
Am: tide
Cm: mapping the
Gm: stars for a
A: while
Also, I heard a Syd song on Myspace called Lucy Leave. Dunno about about you guys but I'd never heard it. Recommended. |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I like Metallica.
But I'm a moron who eats ice-cream.
What do I know? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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I like the album they never made.
I completely agree with this guy's opinion and explanation, though I think he's a geek for going all out there and making this exhaustive review:
http://starling.rinet.ru/music/pink.htm
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skinhead

Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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