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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:06 am Post subject: Thank God for English speakers |
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You know, konglish came into Korean mostly from words or things that didn't exist in Korean before their contact with western civilization, or the item in question was introduced by English speakers.
Before we came here, Koreans couldn't jump (����) or have sex (����). No wonder Japan beat the snot out of them so many times.
I guess they were all test tube babies, like Prof. Hwang. They didn't have pizza (����) or chicken (ġŲ) and they didn't have any know-how (���Ͽ�) either.
What would Korea do without us? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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They are definitely 'condition level up'. |
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Whiskey Samurai
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Probably be a lot happier without people patronising them all the time... |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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the ones that i found to be very telling are.....
1) game
2) party |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Feeling like a divine being are we Ilsanman?
Not a good sign....  |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Before you wrote this moronic thread, maybe you should have thought about all the "English" words we have that originally came from other languages.
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They didn't have pizza (����) |
If that's the case, neither did North America.
Moron. |
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3baekwon
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't resist adding that the Korean language is very rich and has words for all of those things, except for some of the food items (which I think is fair - see above). Korea, like other countries, has taken words from other languages and made them their own. If it weren't for the French, we would still be calling 'deja vu' "that feeling you get when you feel like you've experienced something before." (I've never studied French - do they use 'deja vu' like we do in English?)
chicken: ��
to have sex: �����ϴ�
to jump: �����ϴ�
game: ����
party: ��ġ
Korean is rather specific about parties. They've got different words for different kinds of parties... housewarming parties (������), opening parties (for a new business - though for bigger businesses this is arguably more of a ceremony than a party!) (������), 1st birthday party (����ġ), 60th birthday party (ȯ����ġ)... |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: |
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I think this little text will fit right in with the "thank god for English" idea being put forth by the OP...
The outrage of the Messiah
He cometh from the holy land. He traveleth to the land of the heathens. The land of the savages. He came to shine light where there was no light and to bring universal thruth from his most holy of homes.
He expects to be transported to the savage lands at the cost of the savages themselves but then does not feel he owes these mere brutes anything. After all, he is superior in all ways.
This trip to the barbarian lands is but a mere pause from the veritable utopia that is his homeland.
When he gets to the land of savagery he is shocked that people will not bow down to him and thank him in a glorious ceremony for bringing universal wisdom to the lesser masses.
He is even more shocked that the savages will not conform to his wishes and behave according to his desires and values. He feels this is a slight that defies description. He has to let other holy beings know of this most grave of injustices.
��Why these simpletons refuse my universal wisdom�� says he to a fellow hallowed being. To which the other supreme being responds ��Yes, its shocking, positively shocking that these mere brutes would dare offend us in such a way! You should see the free lodgings they provided for me. No estate lands, no stables and horses and by god, no servants!��
To this our holy being responds �� Indeed, it is all ingratitude on their part��.
When he finally gets to his church, the place where he will give his sermons in the holy language he finds that his disciples, his flock if you will, is not in awe of his infinite wisdom and western attributes. This puzzles our supreme being, he cannot fathom why this is. He ponders the question for a while and decides to tell the head savage of this mere shack what he thinks.
Imagine his outrage when he finds that the owner of the place of worship is not ready to bow to him as a member of nirvana. ��This is astonishing, how dare he!�� he thinks. He is ready to walk out right now but thinks better of it. Perhaps they will learn to worship me in time.
Then, at the end of the first month he gets his pittance. It is more then what he got in utopia but still it��s not enough because the savages are still not treating him with the respect due a supreme being. The owner of his school is even asking him to put effort into his sermons. ��Why should I, a holy being from the mecca of the universe have to make any sort of effort for mere savages. This is merely a pause in my real life after all.�� He thinks.
When he ventures out, he is shocked again that the crowds do not part for him like the Red Sea did for Moses. How dare they walk the same grounds and even touch his holy body. This cannot be tolerated!
The nourishment is also a problem. As a god, he was expecting daily offerings of delicacies delivered to his door every day. But, alas, the savages will not cooperate. They expect him to go and find his own food. Worse even, they expect him to eat this meager food and have to pay for it. How dare they, how can they be so arrogant to think of eating their own foods?
Furthermore, when he demands they listen to his needs, they feign ignorance. Its like they don��t speak the holy tongue. Its like they have their own dark and evil tongue. Oh the savages��.
He is even surprised that these lower beings have opinions of their own. They even have their very own sets of values! They do not see his values as better, they even question them. ��Lord above! How can they be so bold as to question me or my values?�� he thinks.
Then he thinks that they are expecting him to live in such barbarous savagery for a whole year. This is unacceptable. The next day, our most holy of beings walks to his work and asks the owner to double his pay and to give him a 5 month vacation which he may take at his own leisure. When he is refused he grows angry and throws a tantrum. This sadly has no effect. Intolerable!
When he ventures out he consults with a few fellow supreme beings. Some of them feel the same and want to form a group. Other supreme beings disagree. These he learns are called traitors to the supreme order. They are to be shunned and avoided at all costs.
Well, our supreme being spends the entire evening emptying his bag of outrages into sympathetic ears. He hears of a magic solution to his problems: the vanishing act. This speaks to his nature, after all as a supreme being he is expected to have supernatural powers and he sees no responsibility towards these mere savages. This magic trick has to be performed at a certain time and under precise conditions. The best part: it will leave others holding the bag! ��Well�� thinks our supreme being ��This is more like it��. But wait he says ��what if the person holding the bag is another holy being!��. ��Don��t worry�� responds his group ��It will surely be one of those traitors who thinks its acceptable to try and adapt to these savages!��.
��Yes, that��s excellent�� thinks our supreme being.
A month later, on the fateful day he vanishes and reappears at the airport where he boards a flight to paradise where a steady job on the lecture circuit awaits him. There the supreme being will be able to share all the hardships he had to endure in this land of foul savages, he is in the end, a hero. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: |
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I think some saracasm detectors may need to be taken into the A/S center. |
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chupacabra
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I've always thought the word konglish was funny. I think it should be hanglish, to mix �ѱ��� with English. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: yes |
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Wow, a whole bunch of �˰ŵ� for you. It was a jest. I am not surprised it got lost on you.
3baekwon wrote: |
I couldn't resist adding that the Korean language is very rich and has words for all of those things, except for some of the food items (which I think is fair - see above). Korea, like other countries, has taken words from other languages and made them their own. If it weren't for the French, we would still be calling 'deja vu' "that feeling you get when you feel like you've experienced something before." (I've never studied French - do they use 'deja vu' like we do in English?)
chicken: ��
to have sex: �����ϴ�
to jump: �����ϴ�
game: ����
party: ��ġ
Korean is rather specific about parties. They've got different words for different kinds of parties... housewarming parties (������), opening parties (for a new business - though for bigger businesses this is arguably more of a ceremony than a party!) (������), 1st birthday party (����ġ), 60th birthday party (ȯ����ġ)... |
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SeoulFinn

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: Yummy! |
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Ilsanman wrote: |
They didn't have pizza (����) |
Okay, this is TOTALLY off topic, but...
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"The world's first true pizzeria is though to be 'Antica Pizzaria Port'Alba,' which opened in 1830 in Naples, Italy, and is still in business today."
"Modern pizza is attributed to baker Raffaele Esposito of Napoli (Naples) in the Italian region of Campania. In 1889, Esposito of Pizzeria di Pietro (now called Pizzeria Brandi) baked pizza especially for the visit of Italian King Umberto I and Queen Margherita and for one of the pizzas embellished the classic Pizza Alla Marinara with mozzarella and basil. The pizza was very patriotic and resembled the Italian flag with its colors of green (basil), white (mozzarella), and red (tomatoes). This pizza was named Pizza Margherita in honor of the Queen and set the standard by which today's pizza evolved and spread to Northern Italy and beyond, firmly establishing Naples as the pizza capitol of the world."
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Interesting story, right? If I ever go to Naples I will make sure to visit the place where it all begun. *drools* |
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Whiskey Samurai
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Homer - that's fantastic! Pretty much sums it all up in my book.
I am sure the message was meant in jest, but judging by some of the OP's other postings, there was a whole bunch of bitterness not far below the surface.......
If you don't like it, take the first space ship out of here. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Lighten up, Francis. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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HapKi wrote: |
Before you wrote this moronic thread, maybe you should have thought about all the "English" words we have that originally came from other languages.
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They didn't have pizza (����) |
If that's the case, neither did North America.
Moron. |
woah, learn to recognize a joke man. what's the korean for tongue-in-cheek?
it is interesting what words get adopted. words like "double click" and "television" are understandable. but why "sex" and "sense" and "enjoy"? and who starts this stuff? sex is sex in both languages. but sense and enjoy are entirely different from their konglish counterparts. |
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