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On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:02 am Post subject:

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On the other hand wrote:

However, in most places for a doctor to choose patients on the basis of sex is considered a clear case of discrimination.

I hardly think there will be a clear case of sex discrimination in a gynaecological ward. Problem solved.

Rapier said that female medical students were asking to work only with female patients. He didn't say anything about gynaecologists in particular.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:12 am Post subject:

The gospel according to bigverne:

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The Muslim population currently stands at around 10%.

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One problem with that logic: not all muslims want to live under Islamic law.

As recent opinion polls from the UK have shown, around half do. France probably wouldn't be an out and out 'Islamic state' if it had a 40-50% Muslim population, but it would still be a much worse place to live than a France with a 2-5% Muslim population

While I don't buy the idea of applying a dubious Brit statistic to Franc, let's just say it's accurate. If 'half' the French Moslems want to live under Islamic law, that means that half don't. If the Moslem population as a whole is 10%, as bv claims, then 5% of the population wants Islamic law.

But as he himself says:

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it would still be a much worse place to live than a France with a 2-5% Muslim population

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:23 am Post subject:

Big Bird: A quick google search found a few articles and announcements about places that had women-only swimming sessions, mostly in the UK. Well, looks like I might have underestimated their popularity, at least in the UK. A few of the articles did say that some places had banned the sessions as discriminatory.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:27 am Post subject:

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So-called "academics" have been allowed to dominate the public discourse for far too long, and this has been done by a fascist adherence to political correctness, where simply disagreeing with an 'intellectual' constitutes racism.

Can I sue BJWD for giving me whiplash?

One of the hallmarks of Fascism is the distrust of academics (see Eric Fromm: Escape From Freedom). Generally, one criticism of modern universities is that they are dominated by the Left. Political correctness is associated with the Left. BJ goes on to mix Left and Right by accusing the Left of extreme right-wing behavior in one sentence. That gives me whiplash.

With due respect to igtg, I think there is a massive international right-wing conspiracy to muddle political discourse by deliberately misusing 'fascism' so that it is bled of all meaning.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:01 am Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

Big Bird:

A quick google search found a few articles and announcements about places that had women-only swimming sessions, mostly in the UK. Well, looks like I might have underestimated their popularity, at least in the UK.

A few of the articles did say that some places had banned the sessions as discriminatory.

Public swimming baths, doctors surgeries, schools, colleges and other places of education, government administration, hospitals, companies, universities.

These areas should remain completely secular. They are not the place to institute religious influence, or give special dispensations, preferential treatment to any particular group.

Muslims have already been well provided for with uncountable mosques and prayer rooms to express their beliefs. Away from that, they are to be French, obeying the laws of the republic. Simple.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:44 am Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

I had a slim figure with a big bust and men would stare and stare (one was so busy ogling he crashed his bike into a lamp post) and make remarks like "cor blimey - look at the jugs on that!"

Why does this threaten you?

Don't worry sweetie, it doesn't. Personally I can't even sit down in a restaurant without some chick running over to feel my biceps and ask for my autograph. I'm tall dark and handsome, I leave a trail of women screaming wherever I go. It used to really irritate me, but I just smile now.

stat

Joined: 22 Apr 2005

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:56 am Post subject:

rapier wrote:

99% of the unemployed hooligans ripping the fabric of France to pieces right now, with impunity and in the face of total inaction/indecision on the part of the French govt., are Muslims. from N.African muslim states.

give us a source for that statistic, you racist shit-stirring idiot.

rapier

Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:27 am Post subject:

stat wrote:

rapier wrote:

give us a source for that statistic, you racist *beep*-stirring idiot.

Hello Mr. man! Where did you spring from?

As a final word,I think its fairly obvious to (anyone with eyes) what is happening to Europe and France in particular. I don't think anyone here is actually "racist" as some people so liberally sprinkle that silly catchphrase. This is about long held western values bing snuffed out by islamicization. Equality, womens rights, freedom of speech etc retreat wherever Islam appears.
Nobody cares if the people in france are blue or black. Nobody denies anyone the right to be a muslim,-so long as they are tolerant of others and contribute positively to the society they've supposedly become a part of.
Don't be blind to the fact of Islamic intent, history and reality. The Islamic future being brought about will entail- the same backwardness and oppression it always has. Lets just call a spade a spade. I'm totally up for muslims integrating into the west, if it could be achieved succesfully. But unfortunately all evidence shows that it hasn't happened, and will not.
Integration to western ways has never been the ultimate goal of Islam, and never will be:)

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject:

I Europe is capable of booting Christianity out the door after it being so bloody prevalent for a couple of millenia, I am sure they will be fine with Islam. It will get booted out too, just need a bit of time.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject:

rapier wrote:

big_bird wrote:

Er WTF has that got to do with this current protest which is supported by the majority of WHITE French people? This has nothing to do with the point I was making to Butterfly.

-Because mass gatherings to protest the Labor laws are simply convenient opportunities for muslim youths to pursue their real agenda of attacking whites.

Er...and so les francais blancs should all stay home and never protest, just in case the moronic element want to jump on the band wagon and cause trouble? You're suggesting that millions of French should be politically mute, just so as not to give a minority of w@nkers any opportunity to do their moronic thing? Is that what you're suggesting? Discussion with you is not very linear.

Here is (from memory) a brief run down of the main points made so far:

big_bird wrote:

It's great that people in France are not politically apathetic like the anglo-saxons now seem to be.

Butterfly wrote:

I used to think like you but look how the demonstraters are committing violent senseless acts

big_bird wrote:

Butterfly, don't ignore the millions of normal law abiding protesters in favour of an idiotic few - those few who are basically a sideshow seized upon by the media needing to sell papers, compete for air time etc. There are students, professionals, unionists and businessmen marching side by side united against an unpopular policy. Sadly anglo-saxons never do anything on this scale, and prefer to sit at home resigned to a good buggering from their leadership

rapier wrote:

Here are statistics from 2005 that have nothing to do with March 2006, showing rioting about an entirely different issue

big_bird wrote:

What does that data have to do with the issue at hand? I have been discussing an entirely different matter with Butterfly

rapier wrote:

You are making excuses for thugs

big_bird wrote:

Another poster with reading comprehension issues.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

these mindless pleasure seekers smashing shop windows and throwing barracades at the police. These w@nkers are opportunists, grabbing excitement in the fashion of football hooligans.

rapier wrote:

Big Bird: you are supporting violent thugs who have burned churches, raped defenceless women, even set fire to a disabled woman in a wheelchair, all the time chanting Allahu Akhbar. People who are continuing the violence until they become the muslim majority- which is not far off.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:

rapier wrote:

Big_Bird wrote:

The last sentence is out of context and doesn't apply to the earlier part of the edited quote you've pasted it with. That pretty much sums up all your other posts. You have a problem with context. As for these woman who come up to feel your biceps (possibly in the context of Hooker's Hill?) I wont be one of them sweety! Wink

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

It doesn't threaten me, at least not in the sense of "oh now I can't get to ogle all the women at the pool", as you seem to be implying.

Seem being the operable word. In fact I wasn't implying that you personally resented not being able to ogle females in the pool. I was just giving you quite valid reasons why woman might want to have female only swimming sessions, muslim or no muslim. If you think about your mother's/sister's/daughter's/wife's perspective it doesn't seem so unreasonable. In other words, why are the guys making a fuss about it.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

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Rapier said that female medical students were asking to work only with female patients. He didn't say anything about gynaecologists in particular.

Come now OTOH. Where is your sense of humour?

stat

Joined: 22 Apr 2005

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

rapier wrote:

still no evidence for your racist tripe. why not?

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