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Are your Korean co-workers good enough to teach English?
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This seems like a Job Related post, no?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Homer wrote:
In most cases they are good enough to teach the grammar. The conversation bit is a challenge for them sometimes.

Their knowledge of English grammar is however far superior to your average foreign teacher.



No it's not, at least not at either howgan or public school (maybe uni's different).

Take grammar trivia:

1. 'The milk was delivered by the deliveryman' - change to active voice. Not one of five teachers had a clue but my top student last year nailed it.

2.
'Waiting for a bus, I had a heart attack'.
'Waiting for the bus, a brick fell on my head'.
'Waiting for the bus, the man realised he was late'.
Which is incorrect? 1/3 of my students could get it from guessing, but no teacher had a clue.

I could go on and on. No teacher at my school could write anything grammatical to save his or her life. Some of them have an impressive (written) vocabulary but that's about it. In terms of grammar all they've done is memorised patterns and how to identify adjectives from adverbs.
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't feel qualified to comment on the teachers but the Korean textbooks I've looked at seem to have pretty good grammatical explanations in them.

Precious few of any of the students I've taught seem ever to have absorbed the lessons in these books, however. It's about time the myth that Korean students are good at grammar was put to rest once and for all.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Corporal wrote:
...have never heard of Phillis Wheatley...


Ironic that you and I were once on a witch hunt re: Harin.

Sparkles*_*
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good enough to explain in Korean, mostly, but often a struggle to speak with. You find yourself still teaching when you talk with them, at least some.

Yes, and the idea they know grammar is silly. Knowing terms, versus knowing how to use them in speaking or writing, is different.

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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
zappadelta wrote:
This seems like a Job Related post, no?


Omarosa is such a b*tch.

Advantage: O/T Forum.

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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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In terms of grammar all they've done is memorised patterns and how to identify adjectives from adverbs.


Which..compared to many foreign teachers is a hell of an improvement! Laughing Wink
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Homer wrote:
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In terms of grammar all they've done is memorised patterns and how to identify adjectives from adverbs.


Which..compared to many foreign teachers is a hell of an improvement! Laughing Wink


Well that's true, especially if the writing on this board is any indication.
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Irelevant: they will only use English for listen and repeat drills.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Homer wrote:
In most cases they are good enough to teach the grammar. The conversation bit is a challenge for them sometimes.

Their knowledge of English grammar is however far superior to your average foreign teacher.


Too bad usage is soooo much more important to acquisition.... ah, well.
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