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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Yah, isn't that the infamous article written by Director of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff's cousin?
What really made the whole thing look just a tad suspicious is that Chertoff ( the author ) claimed not have known they were cousins 
Once again: here's a GREAT VIDEO expose ... seismic records, WTC #7, NORAD stand-down, simultaneous drills, Cheney's behind the scenes maneuvering, MARVIN BUSH etc etc ...
NORTHWOODS RELOADED
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Yah, isn't that the article written by Director of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff's cousin?
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Oh, uh, what have you been saying for the past few days on this thread?
Something about sticking to issues rather than attacking the person?
Just when I think you couldn't be more of an idiot, you go and outdo yourself. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Yah, isn't that the article written by Director of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff's cousin?
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Oh, uh, what have you been saying for the past few days on this thread?
Something about sticking to issues rather than attacking the person?
Just when I think you couldn't be more of an idiot, you go and outdo yourself. |
I wasn't name calling, saying they're total criminal SCUMBAGS, or something like this.
Also, rather than committ the fallacy of attacking Popular Mechanics for being a HEARST owned publication, let's stick to the issues: incestual NEPOTISM. It doesn't get much more obvious. How can anyone expect an objective and balanced piece? Why not get his MOTHER to write an article in support of the "OFFICIAL" conspiracy theory next time?
That plus his "cousin" caught LYING about their relationship 
Why would he feel the need to do this?
Chertoff is the co-author, along with Viet Dinh, of the USA PATRIOT Act, signed into law October 26, 2001. As head of the Justice Department's criminal division, he advised the Central Intelligence Agency on the outer limits of legality in coercive interrogation sessions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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You really are an idiot!
Did I say you were name calling?
No.
I accused you of being a hypocrite, which you clearly are. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: |
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IGTG:
Do you have evidence that Chertoff knew that the author of the article was his cousin?
I've got first cousins I've never met before, wouldn't know them if they came up to me on the street and told me their names. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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But isn't it great, how he always surprises you with his answers?
Today I learned that IGTG is actually a lot dumber than I had orginally thought.
Let me tell you- that's pretty frickin' dumb.
I'm also guess-timating that that this is not unusual in the LIHOP/MIHOP community.
Or, as Colbert might say,"Truthiness shall prevail!" |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| As it ever occured to any of these so-called experts that the World Trade Center collapsed in such a way because of its design? |
Actually, many skeptics ARE bonafide "experts". Did you happen to catch this?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815
Former Head Of Star Wars Program
Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006
The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President *beep* Cheney.
Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President��s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors.
His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country��s foremost experts on National Security.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm
While really it's beside the point, for his part, playboy Sheen has a degree in engineering.
What happened is said to have to have literally defied the laws of physics.
As unpleasant as it is to contemplate, multiple bombs strategically planted in order to execute controlled demolitions is much more like it.
Alex Jones on MTV
... talking about Charlie Sheen and the inside job of 9-11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNFCRBvKAs4&feature=Views&page=2&t=t&f=b
The top 15 reasons to doubt the official story of Sept. 11, 2001
Background Issues: The Abiding Truth Deficit
1) The 9/11 Commission Fraud: Conflicts, Collapse and Cover-up
2) The Hundreds of Still Unanswered Questions, the Scores of Documented Lies
Motive Issues: Cui Bono - Who Profits Most?
3) Instant Fulfillment of Neocon Wish List
4) Political Bonanza for Bush/Rove team
5) Scale and Diversity of Profiteering
Means and Opportunity Issues: How to Make it Happen
6) Ignored Foreign Warnings
7) Quashed Domestic Investigations
 Incapacitated Oversight
9) Disabled Air Defenses
10) The Amazing Disappearing National Chain of Command
11) The Pakistan Intelligence Chief Who Loved Everyone At Once
Aftermath Issues: How to Keep the Lid On
12) The Bitter Fight Against Investigations
13) The Amazing Disappearing Evidence
14) The Amazing Disappearing Demand for Accountability
Wildcard Issues: Just How Stupid They Think We Are
15) The Ripley Believe It or Not Sideshow of 9/11 Miracles
Epilogue: For the 9/11 Legacy Victims Still Dying in New York
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 |
"His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech."
You obviously don't know the difference between construction engineering and aeronautics. He wouldn't have been any less of a credible expert had he been a Botanist. He was involved in the Star Wars Program? I'd say that doesn't give him a lot of credibility. George W. Bush has the War in Iraq to funnel public funds into the bank accounts of Republican party campaign contributors, Bush Sr. had the Gulf War, and Reagan had the Star Wars Program. Sure, the 9/11 attacks gave the neocons everything they could ever wish for, and more, but that doesn't mean they were involved in the terrorist conspiracy. I need more tangible proof. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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You want the truth. So does everyone else.
That's why there is a 911-conspiracy-theory-of-the-week-club.
If the the "official explanation" weren't so full of holes, we wouldn't be discussing this.
A lot of these questions could be answered if the government weren't so eager to brush it all under the rug and hope it goes away.
Why won't they let Sibel Edmonds testify?
Why did they hide the fact that the black boxes were recovered and then why did they keep the data on them secret?
Why all the secrecy? Why? Why? Why?
There are probably hundreds if not thousands of other similar questions that need to be addressed if this is ever going to be settled.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646#questions |
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Gopher
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Then let Sibel Edmonds testify. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Skeptical on whether the two Chertoffs are in fact "KISSING" cousins, eh? Too lazy to GOGGLE it your "MASONIC" selves eh?
Here ya go then kiddies ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=popular+mechanics+chertoff+cousins
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| I need more tangible proof. |
Actually, seeing how you don't seem to "get it", i'll spell it our for you: it's not my imperative to "prove" anything to you, or anyone else.
I'm in fact only interested in presenting the information, players, media links. witnesses & their testimony. Why? Mainly because the "OFFICIAL" conspiracy story stinks. Shades of JFK.
REOPEN the 9/11 INQUIRY
Having said this, i feel any conclusions that are drawn or views that are held ought ultimately left to the readers' discretion. Mocking, aiming to "virtually" shout down & ridicule anyone whose views i disagree with often clearly points to the worst cases of "small man's" syndrome 
| some waygug-in wrote: |
| Then let Sibel Edmonds testify. |
They shut her down ( only because they want the truth ).
One of the many.
Who headed the 9/11 Commission btw?
Weren't they the same not-so popular "mechanics" who "doctored" the WARREN COMMISSION?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Skeptical on whether the two Chertoffs are in fact "KISSING" cousins, eh? Too lazy to GOGGLE it your "MASONIC" selves eh?
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You STILL don't get the point I was making, do you?
Too funny!
Maybe somebody could spell it out for him... |
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igotthisguitar
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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Flt 93 LANDED In Cleveland Morning Of 911
Plane Lands In Cleveland - Bomb Feared Aboard
By Eric Margolis
5-5-6
Reported by: 9News Staff
Web produced by: Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM
A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.
White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.
United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did say how many people were aboard the flight.
United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.
On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.
"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said.
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The above story is located at the following web archive
http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http:/wcpo.com/specials/2001/americaattacked/news_local/story14.html |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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FOX inexplicably decided to cancel The Lone Gunmen after only 13 episodes, even though the first season of The Lone Gunmen actually had better ratings than the first season of The X-Files.
The cancellation of the well-rated Lone Gunmen has thus led to conspiracy theories that the Bush administration pulled strings with the Republican-friendly owner of FOX, Rupert Murdoch, to have The Lone Gunmen cancelled in order to have full control of the nation's emotions with no questions asked, because the Administration was actually aware of the plots to attack The Towers and Pentagon before September 11 yet had wanted them to happen, just as people have long argued that FDR willingly let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor because he wanted it to happen in order to get into the War 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/lonegunmanpilo.WMV |
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