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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:09 am Post subject:

Plans to "LIQUIDATE" 90% of the world's population is hardly a joke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite. 10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=georgia+guidestones+population+control&spell=1

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:43 am Post subject:

igotthisguitar wrote:

Plans to "LIQUIDATE" 90% of the world's population is hardly a joke.

It's not a joke and your evidence is some link to some freak's art? Please.

Now there are rather high profile groups that do subscribe to the idea the optimal world population is half a billion people. I believe Ted Turner is a big proponent of this theory. However, because people subscribe to this theory does not mean they plan to achieve it by some mass genocide. There are other ways of reducing a global population. A global one child policy is the commonly accepted method. No one is saying, either, this population reduction has to take place in anyone's life time. Many would argue the population can be whittled down via the 1 child policy over one or two centuries.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:47 am Post subject:

Actually, the Message of the Georgia Guidestones reads kinda like a more sociopolitical version of the Desiderata. You know, Max Ehrmann's famous piece of doggerel:

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Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.

Hmm....

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Max Ehrmann was born in Terre Haute, Indiana on September 26, 1872. He was the fifth and last child of Maximilian Ehrmann, Sr. and Margaret Barbara Lutz Ehrmann, both of whom emigrated to the United States in the late 1840s from Bavaria, Germany.

Bavaria, eh? That rings a bell...

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The Bavarian Illuminati
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History
A movement of freethinkers that were the most radical offshoot of The Enlightenment ?whose adherents were given the name Illuminati (but who called themselves "Perfectibilists") ?was founded on May 1, 1776 by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830), who was the first lay professor of canon law. The group has also been called the Illuminati Order, the Order of the Illuminati, the Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria, and the Bavarian Illuminati. In 1777, Karl Theodor, Elector of Palatinate, succeeded as ruler of Bavaria. He was a proponent of Enlightened Despotism and in 1784, his government banned all secret societies, including the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

But Ehrmann himself was as American as apple pie, wasn't he? Umm...

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Upon graduation, Ehrmann studied law and philosophy at Harvard and edited The Rainbow, a national college fraternity magazine. While at Harvard, he also published his first book, A Farrago, in 1898.

Well, there can't be anything sinister about a rainbow, can there?

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In Norse Mythology, Bifr?t is the bridge leading from the realm of the mortals Midgard to the realm of the gods Asgard, which the gods travel daily to hold their councils under the shade of the tree Yggdrasill. The bridge itself is the rainbow and its guardian is the god Heimdallr. The red color was the flaming fire, which served as a defense against the giants. The bridge is destroyed at the end of the world, Ragnar?. It was built by the ?ir.

So, Ehrmann's magazine was named for the nordic pagan's path to the underworld? Man, Bohemian Grove has NOTHING on these guys!

Could it get any more diabolical? Well...

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In 1942, Ehrmann corresponded with Merrill Moore, a U.S. Army psychiatrist serving during World War II. Moore told Ehrmann that he had distributed an estimated 1,000 copies of Desiderata over the years while he was in civilian practice in Boston . Letters attest to the fact that Ehrmann gave permission for Moore to distribute copies of the poem to soldiers as part of their treatment. As late as 1944, Moore confirmed to Ehrmann that he continued to use the poem in his work in the South Pacific.

Okay, I knew MK-ULTRA was capabale of some devious stuff, but who'd have thought they'd be using insipid inspirational verse as literary mind control serum on unsuspecting soldiers? You are a child of the universe, GI Joe!

But wouldn't the God-fearing, poetry-reading public see through this satanic chicanery? Ah, but the Dark One always appears as an Angel Of Light!

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Around 1965, copies of the poem were circulated to various publications with the fraudulent (or perhaps simply mistaken) attribution "Found in Old Saint Paul's Church, Baltimore; Dated 1692". The essay was widely reprinted on the assumption that it was in the public domain. Even Analog Science Fiction and Science Fact was taken in. The misconception continues to this day.

One common explanation for the misunderstanding is that the poem was found on the church's letterhead, which listed the church as being founded in 1692 but gave no attribution for the poem.

But how does any of this connect to the global power-mongers responsible for all the sham, drudgery, and broken dreams of this "beautiful world"? Thought you'd never ask...

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When Adlai Stevenson died in 1965, a guest in his home found a copy of Desiderata near his bedside and discovered that Stevenson had planned to use it in his Christmas cards. The publicity that followed gave widespread fame to the poem

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Following Kennedy's victory, Stevenson was appointed U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, where he worked hard to support U.S. foreign policy, even when he personally disagreed with some of Kennedy's actions. His most famous moment came on October 25, 1962, during the Cuban missile crisis, when he gave a presentation at an emergency session of the Security Council. He forcefully asked the Soviet representative, Valerian Zorin, if his country was installing missiles in Cuba, punctuated with the famous demand "Don't wait for the translation!" in demanding an immediate answer. Following Zorin's refusal to answer the abrupt question, Stevenson retorted, "I am prepared to wait for my answer until Hell freezes over." In a diplomatic coup, Stevenson then showed photographs that proved the existence of missiles in Cuba, just after the Soviet ambassador had said they did not exist.

Hell freezing over. A clear reference to the extinguishment of the protective fire on the rainbow gate to the nordic underworld(see above), the ragnarok being a mythical precursor to the near apocalypse of the Cuban missle crisis.

So, having announced his allegiance to Max Ehrmann's pagan rainbow cult at the UN, Adlai Stevenson proceeds to die mysteriously on the steets of London, bequeathing to the Pepsi generation Ehrmann's mesmerizing hymn to going placidly amidst the haste to the cabalisitic slaughterhouses of international finance!

And they have the gall to ask us NOT to distress ourselves with dark imaginings?

http://www.fleurdelis.com/desiderata.htm

http://www.fleurdelis.com/desidera.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

igotthisguitar wrote:

Plans to "LIQUIDATE" 90% of the world's population is hardly a joke.

Actually, I think that post of yours just confirmed exactly how big a joke it is- pretty frickin' big.

Hey, IGTG, did you know that Tobacco companies are going to start suing people who inhale second hand smoke without paying for cigarettes?
You know that this is true because it can be read on the INTERNET.
It's hardly a joke!

AbbeFaria

Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:14 am Post subject:

Bulsajo wrote:

rapier wrote:

the result of living in disobedience to Gods original plan.

La ilaha illallah.

Yeah, I sort of do that everytime God pops up in one of these NON-RELIGIOUS THREADS!!!! BLA BLA BLA BLA-DE-FRIKKIN-BLA.

But yeah, to many people sucking up my air. We could lose most of them and it wouldn't make much difference. Well done science guy.

Razz

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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject:

AbbeFaria wrote:

Bulsajo wrote:

rapier wrote:

the result of living in disobedience to Gods original plan.

La ilaha illallah.

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What makes a thread a "non-religious thread?" The topic is about the idea of deliberately exterminating millions of people and you're saying religion has no place in the discussion of such a topic?

Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

What makes a thread a "non-religious thread?"

Join my church and all shall be revealed.

I'll tell you about the the golden plate I dug up in my back yard, exactly where the Angel Gabriel said it would be.
It tells of Jesus' travels after finishing God's work in America, his travels through the galaxy, and his eventual ressurrection among the xpli'ioad people of Andromeda, who fly between stars in spaceships that look exactly like Airbus A380s.
And then he promptly sent 90% of them to heaven by releasing a painful, horrific plague upon their world.
There's more, but first you have to buy my bible ($777.77 USD) and attend services until you reach the junior-elder level.
At that time all will be made clear, my son.

Kuros

Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject:

IGTG wrote:

Plans to "LIQUIDATE" 90% of the world's population is hardly a joke.

This thread is a joke, you're just not in on the punchline.

flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject:

Bulsajo wrote:

flakfizer wrote:

What makes a thread a "non-religious thread?"

Nice non-answer. When in doubt, mock.

igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:18 am Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

Nice non-answer. When in doubt, mock.

Atta boy Flak Laughing

Now, back to the discussion at hand.

Dr. Death Gets FBI Visit
Media, colleagues continue to portray him as the innocent victim

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones / Prison Planet.com
April 6 2006

The Austin-American Statesman today reports that Dr Eric Pianka, who has been at the center of a media firestorm for wishing death upon 90% of humanity via an airborne ebola bio-attack, today received a visit from the FBI after he was reported as a potential terrorist.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/060406fbivisit.htm

Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:41 am Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

When in doubt, mock.

You have a serious answer to your own question?
Please share it.

And it seems as though you're taking this thread and the OP seriously?
I'll try if you really want me too, but it'll be really hard...

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Atta boy Flak Laughing

Let me ask you, Flakfizer- how do you feel about getting a compliment from IGTG?

Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:06 am Post subject:

In an effort to take this thread seriously, as I promised Flakfizer- and I accept the criticism that sometimes I am too quick to mock topics which sometimes are worth deeper reflection- I decided to see what non Prison-Planet sources are saying about this incident.

I came across this article, which I found worth reading:

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Meeting Doctor Doom

Forrest M. Mims III
Copyright 2006 by Forrest M. Mims III.

There is always something special about science meetings. The 109th meeting of the Texas Academy of Science at Lamar University in Beaumont on 3-5 March 2006 was especially exciting for me, because a student and his professor presented the results of a DNA study I suggested to them last year. How fulfilling to see the baldcypress ( Taxodium distichum ) leaves we collected last summer and my tree ring photographs transformed into a first class scientific presentation that's nearly ready to submit to a scientific journal (Brian Iken and Dr. Deanna McCullough, "Bald Cypress of the Texas Hill Country: Taxonomically Unique?" 109th Meeting of the Texas Academy of Science Program and Abstracts [ PDF ], Poster P59, p. 84, 2006).

But there was a gravely disturbing side to that otherwise scientifically significant meeting, for I watched in amazement as a few hundred members of the Texas Academy of Science rose to their feet and gave a standing ovation to a speech that enthusiastically advocated the elimination of 90 percent of Earth's population by airborne Ebola. The speech was given by Dr. Eric R. Pianka (Fig. 1), the University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert who the Academy named the 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist.

Something curious occurred a minute before Pianka began speaking. An official of the Academy approached a video camera operator at the front of the auditorium and engaged him in animated conversation. The camera operator did not look pleased as he pointed the lens of the big camera to the ceiling and slowly walked away.

This curious incident came to mind a few minutes later when Professor Pianka began his speech by explaining that the general public is not yet ready to hear what he was about to tell us. Because of many years of experience as a writer and editor, Pianka's strange introduction and the TV camera incident raised a red flag in my mind. Suddenly I forgot that I was a member of the Texas Academy of Science and chairman of its Environmental Science Section. Instead, I grabbed a notepad so I could take on the role of science reporter.

One of Pianka's earliest points was a condemnation of anthropocentrism, or the idea that humankind occupies a privileged position in the Universe. He told a story about how a neighbor asked him what good the lizards are that he studies. He answered, ��What good are you?��

Pianka hammered his point home by exclaiming, ��We're no better than bacteria!��

Pianka then began laying out his concerns about how human overpopulation is ruining the Earth. He presented a doomsday scenario in which he claimed that the sharp increase in human population since the beginning of the industrial age is devastating the planet. He warned that quick steps must be taken to restore the planet before it's too late.

Saving the Earth with Ebola

Professor Pianka said the Earth as we know it will not survive without drastic measures. Then, and without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number.

He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved.

Pianka then displayed a slide showing rows of human skulls, one of which had red lights flashing from its eye sockets.

AIDS is not an efficient killer, he explained, because it is too slow. His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola ( Ebola Reston ), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs.

After praising the Ebola virus for its efficiency at killing, Pianka paused, leaned over the lectern, looked at us and carefully said, ��We've got airborne 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that.��

With his slide of human skulls towering on the screen behind him, Professor Pianka was deadly serious. The audience that had been applauding some of his statements now sat silent.

After a dramatic pause, Pianka returned to politics and environmentalism. But he revisited his call for mass death when he reflected on the oil situation.

��And the fossil fuels are running out,�� he said, ��so I think we may have to cut back to two billion, which would be about one-third as many people.�� So the oil crisis alone may require eliminating two-third's of the world's population.

How soon must the mass dying begin if Earth is to be saved? Apparently fairly soon, for Pianka suggested he might be around when the killer disease goes to work. He was born in 1939, and his lengthy obituary appears on his web site.

When Pianka finished his remarks, the audience applauded. It wasn't merely a smattering of polite clapping that audiences diplomatically reserve for poor or boring speakers. It was a loud, vigorous and enthusiastic applause.

Questions for Dr. Doom

Then came the question and answer session, in which Professor Pianka stated that other diseases are also efficient killers.

The audience laughed when he said, ��You know, the bird flu's good, too.�� They laughed again when he proposed, with a discernable note of glee in his voice that, ��We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.��

After noting that the audience did not represent the general population, a questioner asked, "What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us?"

Pianka replied, "I speak to the converted!"

Pianka responded to more questions by condemning politicians in general and Al Gore by name, because they do not address the population problem and "...because they deceive the public in every way they can to stay in power."

He spoke glowingly of the police state in China that enforces their one-child policy. He said, "Smarter people have fewer kids." He said those who don't have a conscience about the Earth will inherit the Earth, "...because those who care make fewer babies and those that didn't care made more babies." He said we will evolve as uncaring people, and "I think IQs are falling for the same reason, too."

With this, the questioning was over. Immediately almost every scientist, professor and college student present stood to their feet and vigorously applauded the man who had enthusiastically endorsed the elimination of 90 percent of the human population. Some even cheered. Dozens then mobbed the professor at the lectern to extend greetings and ask questions. It was necessary to wait a while before I could get close enough to take some photographs (Fig. 1).

I was assigned to judge a paper in a grad student competition after the speech. On the way, three professors dismissed Pianka as a crank. While waiting to enter the competition room, a group of a dozen Lamar University students expressed outrage over the Pianka speech.

Yet five hours later, the distinguished leaders of the Texas Academy of Science presented Pianka with a plaque in recognition of his being named 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist. When the banquet hall filled with more than 400 people responded with enthusiastic applause, I walked out in protest.

Corresponding with Dr. Doom

Recently I exchanged a number of e-mails with Pianka. I pointed out to him that one might infer his death wish was really aimed at Africans, for Ebola is found only in Central Africa. He replied that Ebola does not discriminate, kills everyone and could spread to Europe and the the Americas by a single infected airplane passenger.

In his last e-mail, Pianka wrote that I completely fail to understand his arguments. So I did a check and found verification of my interpretation of his remarks on his own web site. In a student evaluation of a 2004 course he taught, one of Professor Pianka's students wrote, "Though I agree that convervation [sic] biology is of utmost importance to the world, I do not think that preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola [sic] is the most effective means of encouraging conservation awareness." (Go here and scroll down to just before the Fall 2005 evaluation section near the end.)

Yet the majority of his student reviews were favorable, with one even saying, �� I worship Dr. Pianka.��

The 45-minute lecture before the Texas Academy of Science converted a university biology senior into a Pianka disciple, who then published a blog that seriously supports Pianka's mass death wish.

Dangerous Times

Let me now remove my reporter's hat for a moment and tell you what I think. We live in dangerous times. The national security of many countries is at risk. Science has become tainted by highly publicized cases of misconduct and fraud.

Must now we worry that a Pianka-worshipping former student might someday become a professional biologist or physician with access to the most deadly strains of viruses and bacteria? I believe that airborne Ebola is unlikely to threaten the world outside of Central Africa. But scientists have regenerated the 1918 Spanish flu virus that killed 50 million people. There is concern that small pox might someday return. And what other terrible plagues are waiting out there in the natural world to cross the species barrier and to which scientists will one day have access?

Meanwhile, I still can't get out of my mind the pleasant spring day in Texas when a few hundred scientists of the Texas Academy of Science gave a standing ovation for a speaker who they heard advocate for the slow and torturous death of over five billion human beings.

Forrest M. Mims III is Chairman of the Environmental Science Section of the Texas Academy of Science, and the editor of The Citizen Scientist. He and his science are featured online at www.forrestmims.org and www.sunandsky.org. The views expressed herein are his own and do not represent the official views of the Texas Academy of Science or the Society for Amateur Scientists.

(snip)

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Continued at:

www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/index.html

So, if you view this in light of the ongoing battle between faith and science (which I had admittedly not done until now)...
or the battle between safety/security/sanity and terrorism...
not a good day.

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