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cpraj1234



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: I've decided to leave my job Reply with quote

Hello,

After considerable thought I have decided to leave my teaching position at the 7 month mark. I am going to give my employer 30 days notice and I am hoping he will give me my letter of release. He has connections in the immigration department because he had a foreign teacher get her visa even though she wasn't legally able to work in Korea. He is not the most reputable employer. What options do I have if he refuses to give me my letter of release? He doesn't pay into the pension for us and I still have to get my money from the pension office. Will I be able to receive 7 months worth of money even though I am leaving early? I also wanted to know if I will be able to return to Korea after 2 weeks in Japan? I ask because I am thinking about leaving some luggage here with a friend and wanted to come and pick it up after Japan. Will I have any problems at the customs at Incheon airport?

Thank you very much for any sort of advice that anyone can offer.

Cheers!
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your employer hasn't paid into the pension fund - it also means that you haven't paid your half. And, depending on the size of your school - the school may not be required to contribute to the fund.

So . . . my guess is that you don't have money there to get. Under some circumstances you can report your employer and force them to pay into the fund - but you too will be required to match the funds - before you can apply for the refund. Note that you will need to let them know you are LEAVING Korea - not that you will be back working for someone else next week (my understanding anyway).

As you will be at eight months by the time you quit - and it will take you a least a month (then nine months) to get all this stuff sorted out - why not just finish up the contract? Just asking - I understand that your situation may be untenable.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: I've decided to leave my job Reply with quote

cpraj1234 wrote:
Hello,

(1) After considerable thought I have decided to leave my teaching position at the 7 month mark. I am going to give my employer 30 days notice and I am hoping he will give me my letter of release. (2)He has connections in the immigration department because he had a foreign teacher get her visa even though she wasn't legally able to work in Korea. He is not the most reputable employer. (3) What options do I have if he refuses to give me my letter of release? (4) He doesn't pay into the pension for us and I still have to get my money from the pension office. (5) Will I be able to receive 7 months worth of money even though I am leaving early? (6) I also wanted to know if I will be able to return to Korea after 2 weeks in Japan? I ask because I am thinking about leaving some luggage here with a friend and wanted to come and pick it up after Japan. (7)Will I have any problems at the customs at Incheon airport?

Thank you very much for any sort of advice that anyone can offer.



Cheers!


(numbers are mine)

1. Why? Care to elaborate? The circumstances under which you are leaving may have a lot of bearing on the advice you receive. It's difficult to give advice without knowing the situation.

2. Not necessarily. He may have used a fake degree, or another teacher's degree to get her the visa.

3. Not too many, as you are leaving early. You COULD contact the labor board, but that appears to be a bit of a crapshoot, again depending on your specific situation.

4. If he doesn't pay into the pension, why do you think there is ANY money in the pension office for you? Bear in mind, that if he isn't paying, the pension office will likely demand retroactive payments from him AND you for the seven months you were here. This will make him angry (see number 7) and will take money out of your pocket.

5 (See #4)

6. Again why?

7. If your boss is vindictive you may not be able to come back for the duration of your original visa. You will certainly not be able to work legally for said duration, if he wants to be difficult. If this is the case and unless you have funds to tide you over for a few months, the wisest choice would be to go home.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What TUM says...

Without precise info, it is hard to give relevant advice.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't sweat the pension stuff - if you're planning to stay here you can sort that out later.

Your number one priority must be getting that LOR. I extorted one out of my old employer by threatening to call every parent with a bilingual K-friend and give them my exact opinion of their crap hogwan. By the time we hung up with parent #2 the supervisor was ringing me begging me to stop and promising that wongjongnim-babo would give me whatever I wanted. Be prepared to get really nasty if you really want this, as most hogwans just *hate* cancelling employees contracts, as this sets a terrible precedent for them.
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SOOHWA101



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Don't sweat the pension stuff - if you're planning to stay here you can sort that out later.

Your number one priority must be getting that LOR. I extorted one out of my old employer by threatening to call every parent with a bilingual K-friend and give them my exact opinion of their crap hogwan. By the time we hung up with parent #2 the supervisor was ringing me begging me to stop and promising that wongjongnim-babo would give me whatever I wanted. Be prepared to get really nasty if you really want this, as most hogwans just *hate* cancelling employees contracts, as this sets a terrible precedent for them.


I thought they had laws in Korea against "smearing."
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do. They also have laws against unfair treatment of foreign workers............ Wink
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SOOHWA101



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just scary though. Throwing down in legalities with a Korean could equal "bury the foreigner and lets take care of our own."
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOOHWA101 wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Don't sweat the pension stuff - if you're planning to stay here you can sort that out later.

Your number one priority must be getting that LOR. I extorted one out of my old employer by threatening to call every parent with a bilingual K-friend and give them my exact opinion of their crap hogwan. By the time we hung up with parent #2 the supervisor was ringing me begging me to stop and promising that wongjongnim-babo would give me whatever I wanted. Be prepared to get really nasty if you really want this, as most hogwans just *hate* cancelling employees contracts, as this sets a terrible precedent for them.


I thought they had laws in Korea against "smearing."


I didn't do any actual 'smearing' the first time. I just had my Korean friend explain that I had serious concerns about her daughter's education, would like to meet with her, and could she please call wongjongnim asap. Had that not worked I would have started calling parents and 'smearing' the truth around. Had that still not worked, my best friend in Vancouver is married to a Korean and I would have called every parent with her on 2 cents a minute from Canada expaining exactly what went on in that hogwan, while searching for a job in Japan or Taiwan. If you can prove to them that you can screw them far worse than they can you, something like an unpleasant trip to immigration to sign a form doesn't seem so bad to them all of a sudden.
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cpraj1234



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many reasons as to why I want to leave the hagwon (taking extra money from my pay for utilities which I didn't use, not paying the pension, high foreign/korean teacher turnover, living situation with a flithy roomate, split shifts after repeatedly telling them that its not in my contract, and on and on..).

I ask about returning to Korea because I would like to work at a Summer camp during the end of the summer. It would be a nice way to split up my trip and make some money. Do I need a visa for that or can I just come on a tourist visa and work?

I really appreciate everyone's comments. They are very helpful.

Thank you. Cheers!
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cpraj1234



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many reasons as to why I want to leave the hagwon (taking extra money from my pay for utilities which I didn't use, not paying the pension, high foreign/korean teacher turnover, living situation with a flithy roomate, split shifts after repeatedly telling them that its not in my contract, and on and on..).

I ask about returning to Korea because I would like to work at a Summer camp during the end of the summer. It would be a nice way to split up my trip and make some money. Do I need a visa for that or can I just come on a tourist visa and work?

I really appreciate everyone's comments. They are very helpful.

Thank you. Cheers!
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cpraj1234



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many reasons as to why I want to leave the hagwon (taking extra money from my pay for utilities which I didn't use, not paying the pension, high foreign/korean teacher turnover, living situation with a flithy roomate, split shifts after repeatedly telling them that its not in my contract, and on and on..).

I ask about returning to Korea because I would like to work at a Summer camp during the end of the summer. It would be a nice way to split up my trip and make some money. Do I need a visa for that or can I just come on a tourist visa and work?

I really appreciate everyone's comments. They are very helpful.

Thank you. Cheers!
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zark wrote:
...depending on the size of your school - the school may not be required to contribute to the fund. ..
The number of employees has no impact on a foreign teacher's eligibility to participate in the pension program.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed it is mandatory...much like health insurance.
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