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Xian · Joined: 08 Jan 2006

Josh McDowell is known for some of the best books in Christian apologetics.
This article comes from the book, 'A Ready Defense', which covers many Christian Apologetic issues, including science, God, the Bible, other religions and reason. The book can be found at http://www.greatcom.org/resources/areadydefense/default.htm
It would be an interesting read for those interested. It is a great book for answers on major Christian topics that are often discussed here and elsewhere.

Anyway, this topic is from that book. Basically it challenges the reader to answer the question, was Jesus Lord, a liar or a lunatic. No other options.
The link for the article is:
http://www.greatcom.org/resources/areadydefense/ch21/default.htm

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

Troll_Bait · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject:

I, for one, do not like being forced to choose from a limited list of options.

I do not like the "You're either with us or against us" way of talking to people.

There's at least one option missing: a mythical figure.

Teufelswacht · Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

igotthisguitar · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:14 am Post subject:

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

seoulunitarian · Joined: 06 Jul 2004

Jesus was an alien.

cwemory · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Location: Gunpo, Korea

The Man known as The Man · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject:

I happen to believe Number 2 of your options-however, limitting it to those 3 is just ridiculous and counter-productive.

Far be it from anyone in the history of the Christian Chruch to misrepresent themselves or their message.

Shakespeare wrote _The Merchant of Venice_ for a reaston, tard.

Saskatoongirl · Joined: 03 Dec 2005

i think josh mcdowells stuff is pretty good to read, really well founded, i think anyone who sat down and read it with a open mind would at least have to do some hard thinking about it, even if your not convinced by the arguments i think it wold leave you wondering about Jesus's role in history and all the proffecies that came true.

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Xian · Joined: 08 Jan 2006

I reviewed a section of this book in college. While the parts I read were really good, I thought the section on the virgin birth could have done with a bit more to it.

I realise many don't accept being limited to these 3 options, but logically, there isn't a lot of other clear options. I would love to hear some more suggestions from those people.
Obviously I don't think it is possible for Jesus to have been lunatic or liar, evidence from the article and some of the other chapters are too strong for those.

Brainwashed is an interesting point, but (and this is obviously a Christian point of view according to my belief system) it is said that the likelihood of all the prophecies about Jesus that were fulfilled in Him, being fulfilled in one man is virtually impossible. Even if it were done in a person, many of the prophecies that were fulfilled could not have been fulfilled by a flesh and blood human being, eg: resurrection. Of course this is in dispute with many. That is another very interesting read within that book.

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

While I haven't read it all, I have read enough to know there most likely isn't a single fact in this guy's writing. All I see are bad analogies, his interpretation of what people think and should think and of the Bible. He hasn't proven or disproven a single thing yet.

If you take this book as his opinion on things, fine. But to take anything in there as fact and to cite it (instead of citing his professional opinion) as fact is incredibly inaccurate.

Saskatoongirl · Joined: 03 Dec 2005