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jay-shi

Joined: 09 May 2004 Location: On tour
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: Is there a shortage of teachers? |
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My school is looking for a teacher. As I have done in the past I placed an ad on Dave's. However, this time I got 9 replies from candidates. In the past I would get 30-50 replies. I volunteered to help find a teacher because I have to work with the new teacher for a year.
The job offer isn't spectacular but it's a good job at an excellent school by hagwon standards. The job ad can be seen here : http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=17970 .
So my question is this; why the sudden drop in applicants? Is it the time of year? Are teachers only interested in working at public schools now? Any other reasons? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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My vote goes to the competition from public schools. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Many factors:
1. Lots of jobs due to public schools.
2. Bad publicity in Canadian press and elsewhere.
3. Bad publicity online
4. What your school is offering.
Raise the pay high enough, and you'll get a lot more applicants. This is really what it is all about. Your offer just doesn't sound good enough compared to what else is out there. If your boss is too tight to do that, then that's his/her problem. |
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Porter_Goss

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Hagwons have dug a grave for themselves and its going to be hard for them to compete. And guess what..they deserve to have difficulties. Infact I hope many go bankupt due to being unable to find teachers. Hagwons deserve to be driven out of business. They are run by people who deserve financial ruin. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Big increase in jobs due to Public Schools. This has out stripped the offer or the pool of available teachers in a more competitive ESL market.
This can be only good for Foreign teachers as some places have already raised the base salary. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I would agree with Homer on this one. You need to raise your base salary to 2.0 or 2.1 million. The top of the range, I'm not sure what that should be now. The demand is rising. Pay levels have to go up. |
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Zark

Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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All the other factors mentioned above - but also that fact that April is kind of an off time of year. People graduating in May/June aren't looking yet. People who finished school in December already found a job.
I do teacher training in Thailand and April is the slow season for that too. Just isn't the time when people are looking for change. |
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Gord

Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a shortage of teachers? |
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jay-shi wrote: |
I volunteered to help find a teacher because I have to work with the new teacher for a year. |
And that makes having an age limit for applicants (23-40) all right? Why not just add "females who are hot, whorish and Caucasian need only apply"? It's on the same path. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a shortage of teachers? |
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Gord wrote: |
jay-shi wrote: |
I volunteered to help find a teacher because I have to work with the new teacher for a year. |
And that makes having an age limit for applicants (23-40) all right? Why not just add "females who are hot, whorish and Caucasian need only apply"? It's on the same path. |
It only suggests that's the ideal age range. However, that did make me kind of go "hrmmm". But I'm sure the school asked the OP to put an age limit and he spun it better. If a 45-year old qualified candidate came along, I'm sure the OP would convince the school to give him/her a fair shake. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a shortage of teachers? |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Gord wrote: |
jay-shi wrote: |
I volunteered to help find a teacher because I have to work with the new teacher for a year. |
And that makes having an age limit for applicants (23-40) all right? Why not just add "females who are hot, whorish and Caucasian need only apply"? It's on the same path. |
It only suggests that's the ideal age range. However, that did make me kind of go "hrmmm". But I'm sure the school asked the OP to put an age limit and he spun it better. If a 45-year old qualified candidate came along, I'm sure the OP would convince the school to give them a fair shake. |
I agree. I don't think jay-shi was the one to put that. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Offering 1.9-2.2 creates the impression that the starting wage will be 1.9 which is far too low to attract quality applicants. Something firmer like:
No experience 2.0
One year experience 2.1
Two years experience 2.2
would be more likely to attract interest.
The ad also sounds too rosey. Something like 'teaching in Korea using English is the language of instruction can be difficult but we'll make sure you get full support and training' would sound better.
Good luck with things. I think there are just too many crap hogwans and good public school jobs to get many teachers, especially those already here with experience. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
Offering 1.9-2.2 creates the impression that the starting wage will be 1.9 which is far too low to attract quality applicants. Something firmer like:
No experience 2.0
One year experience 2.1
Two years experience 2.2
would be more likely to attract interest.
The ad also sounds too rosey. Something like 'teaching in Korea using English is the language of instruction can be difficult but we'll make sure you get full support and training' would sound better.
Good luck with things. I think there are just too many crap hogwans and good public school jobs to get many teachers, especially those already here with experience. |
Your ad is good, but, if I were looking for my first post in Korea and saw it I wouldn't apply. It is just a bit too shiny and happy. |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Somewhat curious how "Alejandro Chavez" got an E-2. Sure, it's possible, but... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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OiGirl wrote: |
Somewhat curious how "Alejandro Chavez" got an E-2. Sure, it's possible, but... |
There are lots of people with Latino/Spanish sounding names who are Canadian or American citizens. |
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