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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: How generous are you? Reply with quote

What would you do for a) a complete stranger, b) a friendly acquaintance, and c) a close friend?
What kind of requests would you accept, and what kind of acts of random kindness would you extend?

I'm thinking of small things, like holding the door open, giving up your seat or loose change, smiling.
I'm thinking of ordinary things, like telling someone she looks lovely, making extra coffee for a coworker, springing for lunch.
I'm thinking of big things, like cash loans, manual labour, caring for children.

Surprise and amaze me with your altruism or recalcitrance, guys!
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Porter_Goss



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we were getting ready to move here and were getting rid of a lot of random "stuff", my Wife and I happened to drive by a tiny lady who had just got off the bus carrying a sleeping (4 - 5 year old?) kid. We looked at each other, my Wife pulled over, and I took the extra stroller out of the back and ran over to the lady. I said "Want a stroller?" and she was like "Uh... uh I am just going...". I could she was totally freaked out by my random act of kindness, so I said "We're moving to Korea and are trying to get rid of some things." "Oh...", she put her kid in it and walked away, never even said "Thank you", but like I said, I think she was just stunned someone would do something like that.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang Porter that is a pretty decent thing to do.

good on you and the missus.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my first year in Korea, I'd aquired a fair stack of books. This was well outside of Seoul and I didn't know any of the used bookstores then. Gave my friends first pick, then dragged what was left to the local foreigner hangout and let everyone have at it
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught English for an hour once a week for about 2 years at my hapkido dojang.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'all are real nice people.

I pictured more hypothetical or generalized responses. I'll be more specific:

Would you (while you're alive) ever donate an organ or tissue to someone? Who would qualify?

Another interesting question would be,
"What's the nicest thing you do on a regular basis AND what's the nice thing you FAIL to do on a regular basis?"
For example, I give money to beggars all the time, but I've never donated blood. That makes me feel like a jerk.
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Porter_Goss



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:

For example, I give money to beggars all the time, but I've never donated blood. That makes me feel like a jerk.


You should feel like a jerk. Giving money to beggars is the worst thing you can do for them. Start donating blood and stop enabling drunks.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porter_Goss wrote:
kermo wrote:

For example, I give money to beggars all the time, but I've never donated blood. That makes me feel like a jerk.


You should feel like a jerk. Giving money to beggars is the worst thing you can do for them. Start donating blood and stop enabling drunks.


I'm talking about folks who are mentally ill/blind/disabled and don't have family to take care of them. No social safety net in Korea, so they depend on the kindness of strangers.
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krats1976



Joined: 14 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Porter_Goss wrote:
kermo wrote:

For example, I give money to beggars all the time, but I've never donated blood. That makes me feel like a jerk.


You should feel like a jerk. Giving money to beggars is the worst thing you can do for them. Start donating blood and stop enabling drunks.


I'm talking about folks who are mentally ill/blind/disabled and don't have family to take care of them. No social safety net in Korea, so they depend on the kindness of strangers.


That's always a debate for me. On the one hand, I believe we should give and let the recipient be accountable for what they do with our generosity. On the other hand, I hate the idea of helping to perpetuate laziness, alcoholism, whatever. I usually compromise by dropping whatever loose change I have in my pocket (if I have any).

I don't give blood either, but I figure there are other ways I give to others. Giving blood is just something I can't do.

I think I'm selectively generous. With stuff that doesn't mean a lot to me, I'm happy to give. But, I don't often set aside time in my schedule to go help at an orphanage or so some other service. That's where I really fall short. Crying or Very sad
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porter_Goss wrote:
kermo wrote:

For example, I give money to beggars all the time, but I've never donated blood. That makes me feel like a jerk.


You should feel like a jerk. Giving money to beggars is the worst thing you can do for them. Start donating blood and stop enabling drunks.


I gave a homeless guy $50 one time. He was most certainly going to spend it on alcohol, and my friend dogged me real hard for it, but I figured, hey.. I had a lot of money at the time, and if all this guy has in his life is to get drunk or use drugs, I'll hook him up with a little cash for a fun evening with his buddies. My concept of altruism doesn't have strings attached.

That being said, I wouldn't donate to a person who was planning on blowing up a building or something like that. So perhaps I'm a hypocrite.

Q.
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SeoulFinn



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I'm talking about folks who are mentally ill/blind/disabled and don't have family to take care of them. No social safety net in Korea, so they depend on the kindness of strangers.


It's my strong belief that most of that little money the disabled people get by begging, if not all of it, will be collected from them by their "bosses." This is especially the case with those poor men laying on the ground near subway stations. How do you think they get there? According to some Koreans I've talked about this mystery, they claim that these legless men are brought there by someone to make money. I have never seen this happen, though.

I think that the he best thing you can go for them is to give them something to drink or eat. Especially so during the summertime, because that black rubber outfit must get really hot! Sad
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulFinn wrote:
kermo wrote:
I'm talking about folks who are mentally ill/blind/disabled and don't have family to take care of them. No social safety net in Korea, so they depend on the kindness of strangers.


It's my strong belief that most of that little money the disabled people get by begging, if not all of it, will be collected from them by their "bosses." This is especially the case with those poor men laying on the ground near subway stations. How do you think they get there? According to some Koreans I've talked about this mystery, they claim that these legless men are brought there by someone to make money. I have never seen this happen, though.

I think that the he best thing you can go for them is to give them something to drink or eat. Especially so during the summertime, because that black rubber outfit must get really hot! Sad


I've even heard that if a guy goes into debt to the mob and can't repay, they'll CHOP OFF HIS LEGS and send him out to collect from passersby.

This seems like a convenient excuse to keep your wons tucked away though.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way am i parting with any of my organs.

However,

When the big ass hurricane wiped out most of southern usa a friend of mines daughter decided she was going to get her friends to help her collect cans and other recyclables to raise money for the hurricane relief efforts. I told my friend that I would match every dollar her daughter could make in the span of 24 hours with 2 dollars.

Little beggar put me out 300 bucks by the time it was all said and done. Still was worth it cause she talked to me later on the phone and was bouncing all over the place.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually bring food and snacks to the old guys in the park on sundays when we play changi.

A couple of them are down and out...no remaining family so I sometimes bring them gifts.

I also tend to bring back things from Canada when I go.

Last time, brought back a couple of bottles of whisky and scotch and we shared that.

I also help the old lady who sells cabbage in the area. Sometimes in the mornings she needs help unloading her cart.

Small stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever needs to get done/be given at the time that I capable of doing/giving.
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