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bestyoucanget



Joined: 06 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

Anyone see the news yesterday............another big wig has been caught stealing money.....Hyundai chief this time............damm.........i think korea invented corruption..............between stealing songs from the west.......which really pisses me off........company corruption, and the lies...........what are your thoughts
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest Scandals Test Korea's Efforts to Fight Corruption
by Kim Tong-hyung, Korea Times (March 29, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200603/kt2006032918120910510.htm

Corrupt Officials to Forfeit Bonuses
by Hyun-Jin Park, Donga.com (March 13, 2006)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006031313528

Corrupt Professors Common, Students Say
by Baek Il-hyun and Kim Ho-jeong, JoongAng Daily (April 28, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200504/27/200504272214239309900090409041.html

Scandals Rock Schools
Korea Has Long Way to Go in Education Reform
by Chung Ah-young, Korea Times (February 25, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200502/kt2005022518253910230.htm

Teachers, Principals Involved in Manipulating Students' Scores
by Chung Ah-young, Korea Times (February 24, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200502/kt2005022418082211970.htm

Rotten to the Core?
"... According to a recent survey, as many as 90 percent of Korea's youth think they live in a country that's corrupt, and a considerable number of them say they're ready to join the club if the occasions calls for it later in life...."
Chosun Ilbo (October 9, 2003)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200310/200310080034.html

Mute Whistle-blowers
"...What is most worrisome is that 67 percent of the respondents said they had paid dearly for whistle-blowing, facing discipline, discriminatory personnel decisions and the cold shoulder from colleagues. It is not surprising that the number of whistle-blowing cases reported to the Independent Commission Against Corruption dwindled to 36 in the first half of the year, about half the number from a year ago."
Editorial/Op-Ed, Korea Herald (October 6, 2005)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/10/06/200510060005.asp
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

bestyoucanget wrote:
i think korea invented corruption..............between stealing songs from the west.......which really pisses me off........company corruption, and the lies...........what are your thoughts



My thoughts?

"stealing songs from the west"....Have you ever downloaded a song/movie for free over the Internet? And you point fingers?

"korea invented corruption"...corruption is found everywhere there are people. I realize this may be a shock to you, but even in the West you can find corruption, yes really.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
, but even in the West you can find corruption, yes really.


Just you try to prove that.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

Hey, he had an excuse--he was filthy rich. Those sort of people have a reasonable expectation that they're untouchable.
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
, but even in the West you can find corruption, yes really.


Just you try to prove that.


I suppose you could do some digging and prove that that's true.

But, I will posit this in the mean time: every old citizen knows where to go to buy dope or a girl who'll turn tricks and these establishments are well established parts of the scenery.

How in the world, then, do the cops tragically miss them and never bust them. Prostitution is widely available in Vegas too, and the Vegas police have to be armed and ready with all the money swilling around those casinos, and yet they, too, tragically miss finding the places where this extracurricular activity goes on in the simple recesses of the city-scape.
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Mr Crowley



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice to see this "chairman" get his bank account cleaned out.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: *More Corruption* Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
, but even in the West you can find corruption, yes really.


Just you try to prove that.


Canada--Adscam

U.S.A--Jack Abramoff
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada:

Adscam
Mulroney government


US

Enron
Worldcom
Bush administration in certain respects

France

Marseille banking scandal
Many, many other examples...

Japan

Joking right?

Care to keep dancing?

As for song rip-offs...as it was said: ever download an MP3 for free? Rolling Eyes
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transparency International 2005 Corruption Perceptions Index
Country rank
1 Iceland ............... 9.7 (highly clean)
14 Canada ............. 8.4
17 USA .................. 7.6
18 France............... 7.5
22 Japan ............... 7.3
42 South Korea ...... 5.0
CPI Score relates to perceptions of the degree of corruption as seen by business people and country analysts and ranges between 10 (highly clean) and 0 (highly corrupt).
http://ww1.transparency.org/cpi/2005/2005.10.18.cpi.en.html#cpi

Transparency International Bribe Payers Index 2002
A perfect score, indicating zero perceived propensity to pay bribes, is 10.0....
Country rank
5 Canada............... 8.1 (low perceived propensity to pay bribes)
12 France............... 5.5
13 USA ................. 5.3
14 Japan ............... 5.3
18 South Korea ..... 3.9

Transparency International (TI), the global anti-corruption organisation, today released its Bribe Payers Index (BPI) 2002, showing very high levels of bribery in developing countries by corporations from Russia, China, Taiwan and South Korea, as well as numerous leading industrial nations, all of which now have laws making corrupt payments to foreign officials a crime. "The laws are not being properly enforced...."
http://www.transparency.org/policy_and_research/surveys_indices/bpi/press_release_bpi_2002#bpi
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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to think that homer and urban myth were just apologists. Now I think they are Koreans. Even apologists couldn't defend Korean corruption without choking on it.
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's defending anything? The OP wrote: "I think Korea invented corruption....what are your thoughts?" and Homer and TUM merely offered the perspective that Korea is not only not the sole inventor of corruption, it has some serious competitors for that dubious honor.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poker player,

So..one sort of corruption is acceptable and another is just vile?

Who is defending something here..you or TUM and me?

The OP asked a question...we provided examples...what did you do besides try and take cheap shots?

Oh and how were we defending Korean corruption poker player? Really now, I am curious what your explanation will be beyond: "well..errr......arrrg you are an apologist and my dad can beat up your dad" Laughing
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Karabeara



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Location: The right public school beats a university/unikwon job any day!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a really stupid thread. They will all be pardoned, and then you won't even have an argument.

All will be sweaky-clean and A-OK.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're forgetting the big one in the US: Halliburton. And they managed to declare war on a country. None of the companies in Korea have been able to do that yet.
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