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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to reply to "Captain Kirk's" enthusiastic post in more detail, but probably the best I can do is give this link which discusses the controversy over the dating of the bridge and Lord Rama's appearance. I personally disagree with the theory advanced in this article, establishing the date as around 5000 B.C. The version coming down through the disciplic succession (I try to stay in touch with) is that Lord Rama appeared over a million years ago, and that's when the bridge was constructed (mainly through mystic power as gravity was suspended, enabling stones to float...) http://www.salagram.net/Rama-dates.html |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Satori wrote: |
It's a lot less hubristic than believing there is a god, seeing as the evidence for a god is absolutely nada. |
Perhaps, but still more hubristic than allowing for the possiblity that god exists, given that the one thing we know about the universe is that we don't know everything. |
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jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Far far far away.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
Satori wrote: |
It's a lot less hubristic than believing there is a god, seeing as the evidence for a god is absolutely nada. |
Perhaps, but still more hubristic than allowing for the possiblity that god exists, given that the one thing we know about the universe is that we don't know everything. |
I know everything.
Sorry.
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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So, God or no?
Jesus, Mohammed, JBuddha, oe Smith, L Ron Hubbard, or David Koresh?
Afterlife?
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
How many digits in pi?
What's the answer to life the universe, and everything?
[that's a gift, that line is] |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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It was all created by a little blue cowherd boy for his eternal amusement... |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Brokeback vishnu? |
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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new age man...
pokeback vishnu. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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When Mother Yashoda made her young son, Krishna, open his mouth to check if He had been eating dirt she was amazed to see innumerable universes - the entire cosmic manifestation (and she fainted ...)

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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: |
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looks like pedoback mountain...
yeck... |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Krishna never accepts a material body when He appears in the material world, and none of his relationships are material. Only the most advanced liberated souls take birth in advance of his appearance to assist in his pastimes intended to attract conditioned souls to want to go back to the spiritual world.
The allusion to pedophilia hits a nerve because the Hare Krishnas - especially in the 1980s - had a few pedophiles who naturally infiltrated some of their schools. They, along with some untrained teachers who couldn't manage kids without occasionally knocking their teeth out, managed to abuse well over a hundred kids either sexually or at least physically by what was (by U.S. legal standards) considered excessive punishments (like caning). Actually, during that entire period very few devotees were aware of what was happening because parents were advised by temple managers to be detached from their kids who were usually sent to schools at remote locations - including India. Faced with huge class action lawsuits and very negative publicity, state-of-the-art child-protection safeguards and training were instituted a number of years ago and have reportedly been effective... Here's part of an article on it:
" . . . An entire generation of children had been subjected to horrendous treatment at the hands of those entrusted with their welfare by parents who thought that they were doing what was best for their children."
Middlebury College sociology professor E. Burke Rochford Jr. said in his article that the schools -- known as "gurukulas" -- "were staffed by devotees untrained and generally ill-prepared to take on the demands of working with children." The lack of institutional support for the schools "contributed directly to acts of child abuse by teachers," he said.
As word of abuses spread through the movement, said Rochford, "some efforts were made to intervene. Yet this very intervention sometimes resulted in new strategies of coercive abuse. Most significant was enlisting older boys in (one school in India) to physically abuse younger students who were deemed troublesome and unruly by teachers."
A Washington-based spokesman for the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), as the movement is officially called, said the group's decision to publicly confront the abuse issue was made "to reestablish a level of integrity that the organization has to function on (and) to educate people inside the movement so that this can never happen again.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/krishna/krishna2.html |
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Dan The Chainsawman

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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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So in what yer saying is that really stank smell I get going when I rip a friggin nasty fart is Vishnu?
Vishnu is therefore brought on by an unholy combination of gimchee, oatmeal, and tuna fish. Shite man if that is all it takes to get near to a manifestation of a divine being I would have started listening to the wisdom of my farts along time ago. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Try not to fart if you visit a Vishnu temple it's definitely considered an offense. (In the spiritual world there are no foul odors - just wonderful fragrences...)
When I first joined the Krishna temple in Miami there were a few tough "ksatriya" types who were always on the lookout for people deliberately making offenses, and they would occasionally follow them off the temple grounds, knock the crap out of 'em, and deposit them behind some tall bushes ... (ahh the good ol' days - we thought they'd never end... )! |
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Porter_Goss

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Do you ever wonder if Rteacher's persona is a gag? He's just jerking us around with all this BS? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Porter_Goss wrote: |
Do you ever wonder if Rteacher's persona is a gag? He's just jerking us around with all this BS? |
I'm almost sure of it, but it's fun to play. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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With Wombat gone, somebody had to fill the position. |
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