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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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Of which country is Corsica a part?
Administratively, it forms two Départements and one Region of France. Haute Corse (2B) is to the north and its capital is Bastia. To the south is Corse du Sud (2A) with its capital in Ajaccio, which is also the regional capital and is the seat of the regional government - the Collectivité Territoriale de Corse (CTC). Thus Corsica is in the EU and the currency is the Euro.
However don't forget that Corsica is not France. Iin fact it was acquired by France from bankrupt Genoa under the Treaty of Versailles in 1768. The country had been independent from 1755, though Genoa had hung onto the fortified towns of Ajaccio, Bastia, Bonifacio, Calvi and St Florent. Corsica had been the first country to have elected its parliament - Consulta - by universal suffrage (men and women). Small wonder then, that there is now an expression of the desire for autonomy. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Of which country is Corsica a part?
Administratively, it forms two Départements and one Region of France. Haute Corse (2B) is to the north and its capital is Bastia. To the south is Corse du Sud (2A) with its capital in Ajaccio, which is also the regional capital and is the seat of the regional government - the Collectivité Territoriale de Corse (CTC). Thus Corsica is in the EU and the currency is the Euro.
However don't forget that Corsica is not France. Iin fact it was acquired by France from bankrupt Genoa under the Treaty of Versailles in 1768. The country had been independent from 1755, though Genoa had hung onto the fortified towns of Ajaccio, Bastia, Bonifacio, Calvi and St Florent. Corsica had been the first country to have elected its parliament - Consulta - by universal suffrage (men and women). Small wonder then, that there is now an expression of the desire for autonomy. |
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So, tell me why I have never heard of it referred to as the Country of Corsica? Sorry YBM, bad info there. |
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SPINOZA
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Einstein
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John Lennon (who of course was in BEATLES-UGH) |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Thanks again for the suggestions - the game's been a lot of fun so far. Arnold throws them completely. 'What's his country of birth? ... no it's Austria! ... what's his first nationality? ... no, it's not Australian ... what's his mother tongue? ... no, it's not English ... no, it's not Australian'. Osama gets a lot of laughs when we get to 'where does he live today?'. |
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inspector gadget
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies
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michael jordan
yao ming
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ronaldo
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Another really cute moment: we got to James Dean and when I asked 'where does he live today?' one girl said 'in heaven'. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| So, tell me why I have never heard of it referred to as the Country of Corsica? Sorry YBM, bad info there. |
Because it was only independent from 1755 to 1768. That was a long time ago.
In his day, Napoleon was known in France as "Le Corse." He was seen as an outsider. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| So, tell me why I have never heard of it referred to as the Country of Corsica? Sorry YBM, bad info there. |
Because it was only independent from 1755 to 1768. That was a long time ago.
In his day, Napoleon was known in France as "Le Corse." He was seen as an outsider. |
So his first nationality was officially Corsican? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Napoléon Bonaparte (1769 – 1821) was a general and politician of France. |
He was born in Corsica the year after it became part of France. So, no, I guess he was always French.
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| Not a Frenchman by birth, Napoleon Bonaparte was born at Ajaccio on Corsica - only just sold to France by the Italian state of Genoa - on 15 August 1769 and learnt French at the school of Autun and later the military academy at Brienne. He never fully mastered French and his spelling left a lot to be desired. |
http://www.napoleonguide.com/leaders_napoleon.htm
This sort of contradicts itself, stating that he was born on Corsica shortly after its sale to France but that he wasn't a Frenchman. Regardless, his first language was Corsican and he never, according to this, fully mastered French. His accent and lack of fluency would have tagged him as an outsider.
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The French occupation of their native country was resisted by a number of Corsicans led by Pasquale Paoli. Carlo Buonaparte joined Paoli's party, but, when Paoli had to flee, Buonaparte came to terms with the French. Winning the protection of the governor of Corsica, he was appointed assessor for the judicial district of Ajaccio in 1771. In 1778 he obtained the admission of his two eldest sons, Joseph and Napoleon, to the Collège d'Autun.
A Corsican by birth, heredity, and childhood associations, Napoleon continued for some time after his arrival in Continental France to regard himself a foreigner; yet from age nine he was educated in France as other Frenchmen were. While the tendency to see in Napoleon a reincarnation of some 14th-century Italian condottiere is an overemphasis on one aspect of his character, he did, in fact, share neither the traditions nor the prejudices of his new country: remaining a Corsican in temperament, he was first and foremost, through both his education and his reading, a man of the 18th century. |
So, his father actually fought the French at first and then became a French civil official. Was he French? Good question. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Not a Frenchman by birth, Napoleon Bonaparte was born at Ajaccio on Corsica . . . |
I don't know whether this "sort or contradicts itself" or not, but I find it interesting.
It shows that Napoleon was not a prototypical Frenchman.
It has been said that those who are least secure in their nationality are often the feircest nationalists.
Mussolini was born on an Italian island, not the mainland, so he was not a prototypical Italian.
Hitler was born in Austria, not Germany.
I have a friend who becomes vicious if anyone, Korean, American, or otherwise, criticizes the United States.
She is an American citizen, but she was born in Vietnam.
Even her Vietnamese nationality is not secure, because her parents were Chinese.
Whenever she brings the subject up, I keep my mouth shut.
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| His accent and lack of fluency would have tagged him as an outsider. |
Poor fellow, I know exactly how he felt.
Back to the subject of the thread, Napoleon's name is well-known in South America, too.
There is a well-known joke which says, "What color was Napoleon's white horse?"
That's their counterpart to "Who is buried in Grant's tomb?" |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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Benito MussoliniBenito Mussolini was born at 2 pm on the 29th of July 1883 in Italy. To be more exact he was born in the poor village of Predappio, near the city of Forli. ...
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Benito MussoliniMussolini was born in Predappio, near Forli, in Romagna, on July 29, 1883. His father, Alessandro, was a blacksmith, and his mother, Rosa, ...
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Benito MussoliniBenito Mussolini was born on July 29th, 1883 in the town of Varnano dei Costa near the village of Predappio. His mother Rosa Maltoni was married to a ...
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Mussolini was not born on an island. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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It looks like you're right.
I forgot where I read that. |
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