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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: Gardening Season Is Here |
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Does anyone else have a garden?
I had one two years ago in Jinhae...but my plot was on top of a cement slab. That presented certain technical problems.
But now I'm working in a rural high school that used to be an agricultural high school (whatever that means) so behind the volleyball court is about 1/2 an acre of garden space. Several of the teachers have plots and there is a gardening club for the high school boys. I asked for and got a plot. Only about 2/3's are taken, so if anyone else wants to drive down in the evenings, I'm sure you can use a plot or two.
Anyway, in spite of it raining all day yesterday and me having to work up to my ankles in mud, I got 'the back 40' plowed tonight after school. Jin-Wook helped in an ajoshi kind of way. I was out hoeing the weeds off the top when he showed up with his spade. He dug out the drainage spaces on the sides of my plot and dumped the mud on top...along with the weeds. Then he went back through and pulled the weeds out of the mud. I liked my way better, but at least it is done.
The plan is to buy fertilizer during the day tomorrow and spread it right after school. Then get the planting done before the rain starts again.
My projected crops:
Snow peas!
Sweet peas!
(Iowa) sweet corn!
Some basil and dill in case they don't do well in the pots on the balcony |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:59 am Post subject: |
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(Iowa) sweet corn! |
Yea!! Just be sure to get the right seeds. The hard Korean feeder corn sucks.
It seems every small Iowa town has its sweet corn festival. All the delicious sweet corn you can eat, and just toss the cobs up into the dumpster when you're done. Come October every year, I'd give anything for some good ole' Iowa sweet corn. Remember- knee high by the 4th of July!!
Getting your own plot is veryyy fortunate. Week-end farming is big business up here in Seoul. Last year we paid around 100,000 for a plot about 5x10 yards. You can grow a lot in a small area, though. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: |
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last year (on a whim) i started a balcony garden which quickly grew out of control:
it consisted of cherry tomatoes, a kiwi plant, lots of gget nip (that minty flavored leaf that comes with the galbi) and coriander. but the main attraction was the enourmous hyacinth bean which was a novelty gift from a student the year before:
this year i'm going to try to keep it a little more simple on the inside (it was a real chore chopping up all of the overgrown tomato plants) and so this past sunday i planted all 25 of the beans which i harvested from last year's single bean. also, a friend of mine visited with two avocados, and so i planted the seeds from those as well. after doing a bit of reading on the internet, i learned that the avocado comes from a rather large tree. so if those actually sprout, i'm going to need to transplant them outside before too long.
also, last halloween i bought a pumpkin to carve into a jack-o-lantern, and i saved all the seeds. i didn't think it wise to try to grow a pumpkin vine inside, so this coming weekend i'm going to scout out around my place and try to plant them outside somewhere. does anyone know if pumpkin vines will grow well on a slope? i'm thinking of just planting them all on a nearby hill. i've got a few hundred seeds, so i'm figuring that even if i don't weed the area or anything, at least a few of them will grow. anyway... happy gardening! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Pumpkins will grow just fine on a hill. I've seen them growing on roofs around here. I forgot mention it, but I have the seeds for special GIANT pumpkins. I tried growing them two years ago, but something out there loves to eat the leaves. I'm hoping Jin-Wook will know what to do to kill whatever it is. You might watch out for something eating yours. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Pumpkins will grow just fine on a hill. I've seen them growing on roofs around here. I forgot mention it, but I have the seeds for special GIANT pumpkins. I tried growing them two years ago, but something out there loves to eat the leaves. I'm hoping Jin-Wook will know what to do to kill whatever it is. You might watch out for something eating yours. |
who is this mysterious jin-wook character? do you have any of those special giant pumpkin seeds to spare? i've got big plans for the coming halloween. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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endofthewor1d wrote: |
last year (on a whim) i started a balcony garden which quickly grew out of control:
it consisted of cherry tomatoes, a kiwi plant, lots of gget nip (that minty flavored leaf that comes with the galbi) and coriander. but the main attraction was the enourmous hyacinth bean which was a novelty gift from a student the year before:
this year i'm going to try to keep it a little more simple on the inside (it was a real chore chopping up all of the overgrown tomato plants) and so this past sunday i planted all 25 of the beans which i harvested from last year's single bean. also, a friend of mine visited with two avocados, and so i planted the seeds from those as well. after doing a bit of reading on the internet, i learned that the avocado comes from a rather large tree. so if those actually sprout, i'm going to need to transplant them outside before too long.
also, last halloween i bought a pumpkin to carve into a jack-o-lantern, and i saved all the seeds. i didn't think it wise to try to grow a pumpkin vine inside, so this coming weekend i'm going to scout out around my place and try to plant them outside somewhere. does anyone know if pumpkin vines will grow well on a slope? i'm thinking of just planting them all on a nearby hill. i've got a few hundred seeds, so i'm figuring that even if i don't weed the area or anything, at least a few of them will grow. anyway... happy gardening! |
Wow, EOTW, that is amazing!!! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Jin-Wook is this pretty cool character whose desk is next to mine. He's published two travel books and a text book. Didn't speak a lick of English last fall when I arrived but gets along pretty well now. He lived on a farm till he was 14 and has been gardening ever since he moved to town. That is except for the time he ran away from home when he was 13 to become a monk. Shaved his head and everything. Ended up going home when he found out monks get up even earlier than farmers. He says he may retire from teaching in a year or two and try the monk thing again. He has an apple orchard (maybe 2) and just bought more land and is starting a persimmon orchard. He's the sponsor of the gardening club at school. Best of all, he speaks pretty decent Korean and I can ask him questions about gardening and get trustworthy answers and gardening advice.
And yes, I have a few more seeds than I will need. Want some? |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Gardening Season Is Here |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Does anyone else have a garden?
I had one two years ago in Jinhae...but my plot was on top of a cement slab. That presented certain technical problems.
But now I'm working in a rural high school that used to be an agricultural high school (whatever that means) so behind the volleyball court is about 1/2 an acre of garden space. Several of the teachers have plots and there is a gardening club for the high school boys. I asked for and got a plot. Only about 2/3's are taken, so if anyone else wants to drive down in the evenings, I'm sure you can use a plot or two.
Anyway, in spite of it raining all day yesterday and me having to work up to my ankles in mud, I got 'the back 40' plowed tonight after school. Jin-Wook helped in an ajoshi kind of way. I was out hoeing the weeds off the top when he showed up with his spade. He dug out the drainage spaces on the sides of my plot and dumped the mud on top...along with the weeds. Then he went back through and pulled the weeds out of the mud. I liked my way better, but at least it is done.
The plan is to buy fertilizer during the day tomorrow and spread it right after school. Then get the planting done before the rain starts again.
My projected crops:
Snow peas!
Sweet peas!
(Iowa) sweet corn!
Some basil and dill in case they don't do well in the pots on the balcony |
Wow Ya-ta, you are set up!!!
This year I said I wouldn't buy any flowers, I'd just seed them myself. Well I caved yesterday and bought pansies and put them in the front yard--instant gratification!!
When I was in Korea I had to satisfy my hort hobby with houseplants, although Endoftheworld is set up as well, I'm so impressed!!
Now that I have some yard to play with I've been going all out. Quickly planted around 500 flower bulbs last fall (we moved into the house Sept 1st) and they're starting to bloom now. It makes me happy just looking at them--I'm a floweraholic.
So far this spring I've seeded tomatoes, cilantro, basil, snapdragons, delphiniums indoors. I have about 20 more seed packets of flowers and veggies to go but no more space so I'll have to wait until I can do the rest outside. I also have strawberry rhubarb, chives, parsely, and an insane amount of other flowers like canterbury bells (my fave) gladiolas, dahlias, and some interesting exotica. Am going to try growing musk melons this year (the "Montreal Melon").
My husband has long realized I wasn't joking when I said I wanted a greenhouse
I'm going to be very busy for the next 2 months--no one had ever really made much of the yards here.
Once the hub retires from the military and we settle in one place for good I'd like to start a greenhouse biz.
There's a Chinese saying which goes: "If you want to be happy for a day, get married. If you want to be happy for a week, kill your best pig and eat it. But if you want to be happy for a lifetime, plant a garden"  |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Didn't speak a lick of English last fall when I arrived but gets along pretty well now... he speaks pretty decent Korean...
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just what is jin-wook's nationality?
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And yes, I have a few more seeds than I will need. Want some? |
indeed i do. i've got most of a pack of coriander, cherry tomatoes, and gget nip left if you're interested. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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He's Korean. He's the Korean Lit and Chinese character writing teacher. Years ago I started telling Koreans who said, "My English is poor"/"I have a short tongue" that their Korean sounded excellent to me.
Thanks for the offer of seeds, but I have all I need. I made sure to stock up when I came last fall. My balcony doesn't look like yours did, but I have my herb garden out there. I moved in last Sept. and had fits all winter--my balcony gets only a little direct sunlight in the morning. I'm hoping it gets more as the sun gets higher in the sky. Only my rosemary and sage survived the winter. I replanted a couple of weekends ago, but so far, nothing much is happening. I may have to settle for planting outside.
My seeds are in a drawer at school. I'll check on my supply of pumpkin seeds and get back to you.
canukistan:
You are really going gangbusters. I saw your thread on your giant flower box. Very impressed.
I have relatives in Colorado. One of them rents a plot of land for a garden. You might ask around if you need more space. |
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krats1976

Joined: 14 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I was so excited to get my garden started. I put some herb seeds in pots and when they started to grow I got even more excited & put some bean & squash starts out on the balconey, and... nothing. I think the seeds rotted in the dirt. I have no idea what the mistake was: wrong dirt? too little light? too much water or too little?
Either way, I have my plot all set up outside. This year it's roped off with a sign in English & Korean so we don't have anyone 'accidentally' ripping up my nearly ripe plants.
So Ya-ta--my gardening guru--where do I get some fertilizer? And corn seeds for that matter. I'll pick some up in the States when I go home, but by the time I get back it'll be too late to plant this year. I'd like to plant some Korean stuff. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Gardening Season Is Here |
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canuck... sure, my garden last year was pretty cool. about as wild as one can get in an indoor balcony, but from what you're saying, your garden kicks my garden's ass all over the place. how about some pictures? |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Gardening Season Is Here |
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endofthewor1d wrote: |
canuck... sure, my garden last year was pretty cool. about as wild as one can get in an indoor balcony, but from what you're saying, your garden kicks my garden's ass all over the place. how about some pictures? |
You're so lucky though. I'm really impressed with what you made grow!
I always wanted one of those balconies in Korea that people use to dry their clothes-- and with any luck it would have 1/2 a day of sun too. In 4 years no go, although the last year I did have a rooftop to use, but no car to haul in soil and start something. So 4 years of serious hort deprivation Maybe that's why I'm going crazy
The lowest point for me hort-wise in Korea came when I had to move to a much darker apt just for a month--the plants took the worst beating and many died. Including a beautiful 70,000W hibiscus tree. That sucked.
The gardens here still look a bit bare because it too early in spring. In ten days-two weeks I'll snap some pics though, the bulbs are not yet full out. Then I'll snap some more pics later in the summer.
We have 3 levels of backyard--the last two are/were overgrown no-man's land so I've gutted them of brush and junk to give the lilac trees some air and to plant other things.
You wouldn't believe what I found down there...pantyhose, underwear, barbeque covers, tennis balls, mystery plastic and metal. I still find stuff and am sure that'll continue for a while.
I'm adding some phosphate to the soil in hopes those lilacs will bloom again as they've had waaaay to much nitrogen--- no-man's land was a cat and dog poo repository for years (previous owners).
It's so much fun digging around there
We also have 2 apples trees that will hopefully appreciate the long overdue pruning I've given them. In general I've cut so much brush/branches from all over the prop I have to rent a branch chipper for a day to deal with the pile. I'll just use it as mulch in the fall. I also have a very stinky compost heap (downwind!) that smells like wine vinegar--I don't know if that's a good thing or not but all organic stuff from the kitchen/garden goes onto it.
I'll be growing Concord/Niagra grapes, beer hops, clematis, and morning glories--4 things which I still need to build trellises for.
We're going to be laying paver stones in an area near our gate as well.
(Notice I said "WE" 'cause I'm Shanghai-ing hub into helping me for that one or I'll never get all of this done.)
Then there's the few tons of pointy, nasty rocks (very uncomfortable to walk on) I've had to move from just about EVERYWHERE to even *make* gardens because so many people here in Colorado use them for landscaping--it's cheap and they're the scourge of Colorado .......then after, to plant something, I have to rip up the geotextile underneath and dig up the compacted-for-years clay to add soil amendments and mix those in--it's *%!$!! hard on the back. But I just do it anyways.
So you see the yards are still very raw stuff. Give me a couple of months and things will be different.
....and guess what? It can still snow like hell in Colorado in April! 
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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krats, my dear gardening �л�, the word you are looking for (fertilizer) is ��� or... �Ÿ�. MY gardening guru said I can buy big (dark green) bags for W2,600 per--and it says in big black letters: ���. And he said to go to ����...not the bank. If you see a store with seeds and bags of 'stuff', ask if they have ���. If not maybe they can guide you. I'd say go to a traditional market area. I can tell you exactly where to go in Jinhae, if that's any help. The ajuma there will even carry the stuff to your car.
I brought my seed corn from home. I can't stand Korean corn. I am sure that stuff is field corn. Fine for cows and pigs, but I'm neither.
For Korean seeds, look for: ���...����...Jin-Wook says that means Agricultural and Chemical shop. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta-Boy wrote:
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canukistan:
I have relatives in Colorado. One of them rents a plot of land for a garden. You might ask around if you need more space.
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An outdoor plot would be nice for a REALLY good vegetable garden because Mr Canuckistan won't let me plow under the backyard
What I need is a greenhouse as I've bought so much seed this year and nights can still get frosty, so outside isn't possible right now. I'd like to start the rest soon but alas, no where to do it at the moment. All available space at sunny windows is already sucked up as well as the guest room. The house is already a jungle.
I was thinking of jury-rigging a temp greenhouse with plastic (like Korea) but the prob with that is we get these gale-force winds off the mountains at least 1 x a week. Any temp greenhouse would end up one state over in Kansas.
All stocked with seeds and no place to go.
Any suggestions? |
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