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[marcus]

There you hit it right on. The OP seemed to think they could pay less because it's a small town far from Seoul. I think the town was even referred to as the "boonies". The boonies in any country suck. There'd have to be a sweet deal if I was going to subject myself to Korea's boonies. That's probably going to go for most people.

The danger of pulling people in for so cheap is that they're either incompetent or will leave when they realize what a bad contract they got.

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[jacl]

That's the impression I got. The only exception is Jeju Island where I've seen and heard of lower salaries because, supposedly, it's cheaper to live there and you can save more money. Maybe also because it's some sort of resort. To me, that's a joke though. Jeju Do. Big deal. Too much of a pain to see the rest of Korea or go to the closest big city. I think some are under the impression that if it's difficult to go anywhere then you can save more and a lower salary is justifiable. That's just stupid though. It's a pain in the ass to get anything accomplished in your day-to-day life like getting your driver's license, buying the foods that you want, getting furniture, etc.

Some things are more expensive in more remote areas. Even real estate can be on par in some locations. Yes, you have less recreational things to spend on, but once in a while you have to get the hell out of Dodge and spend money or else you'll go crazy.

[Unreal]

From my experience, 1.8 is too much for a warm body while a good teacher should command at least 2.4. The use of a certain number (such as 2.0 million) as a standard is ridiculous as it rewards poor teachers while chasing away the good ones who know they deserve more.

I taught at a hagwon a few years ago and the employers were great. We had a great group of 3 foreign teachers and a ton of students. Since then, the school had a couple more good teachers, then a string of crappy ones, three of whom had to be fired or demanded more money for doing a mediocre job (they gave into the demand for more money but the teaching quality then dropped and the teacher soon left anyway). Now the school is dead and has no foreign teacher. They are going to wait until September to hire a former teacher because they are tired of being burned and know what to expect with him.

Teachers are the ones working on the front lines. A good teacher or two can completely change the atmosphere of a school and draw more students. A bad one is not worth the effort and can cause more damage than good.

[Thunndarr]

Hagwon owners think that when the school is doing good, it's because of their management style, not due to the quality of the teachers. Therefore, the teachers do not deserve a raise. So, when the school is doing well, the quality of the teacher is irrelevant.

However, when the school is doing bad, it's not because of shoddy management, it's because of bad teachers. The teachers are then blamed for not working hard enough, or giving enough homework, or being entertaining enough, etc.

So, in the hagwon owners mind, there is no real reason to give a raise to good teachers (since they have no effect on student enrollment) and every reason to fire bad teachers (since they have a disastrous effect on student enrollment.)

Logic 101 has defeated Local Hagwon Owner in duel to the death!

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